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Outdoor Dining Will Continue In the Winter and Beyond; Heat Lamps Allowed Too

September 25, 2020 | 2:09 PM - Updated on June 5, 2022 | 11:40 PM
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Photo by Emily Yourman.

Mayor de Blasio said the city will allow restaurants to set up seating outside year-round, and the policy will continue indefinitely. De Blasio told WNYC host Brian Lehrer outdoor dining will be “permanent and year-round” on Friday, cheering advocates for the city’s restaurants.

A manager at Serafina on 77th Street and Broadway, for instance, told CBS this week that the restaurant was waiting for approval from the city on heat lamps. Without them, the restaurant was suffering.

AnnaMaria Matteis, manager at Serafina on the Upper West Side, said she could solve chilly diners’ problems immediately with heat lamps, but she says the city has yet to provide clear guidelines on outdoor heating.

Matteis said it’s costing her customers.

“We have so many reservations that called and said tonight is going to be too cold, and they cancel,” Matteis said.

Electric heat lamps will be allowed on the sidewalk and street but gas heat will only be allowed on the sidewalk, Gothamist reports.

The NYC Hospitality Alliance, which advocates for restaurants and hotels, called outdoor dining “a critical lifeline for thousands of small businesses and jobs throughout the five boroughs during the COVID-19 pandemic.”

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Rich
Rich
1 year ago

I wonder how this is going to work…I smell lawsuits and even fires in the future

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anon
anon
1 year ago

At some point life will get back to normal is and the lack of parking spaces will be a problem

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Paul
Paul
1 year ago
Reply to  anon

The beauty of the use of the commercial streets is in the fact that Covid made the metered spots useless otherwise. Those spaces were empty.
We’re not getting back to normal for at least a year.

But when we do and restaurants return to full indoor dining, with groups of patrons that frequently include out of area residents visiting their local friends and family, they are likely to want the parking to be available.

For now and through next summer this is fine. “Permanent” may not be such a great idea.

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UWS78
UWS78
1 year ago
Reply to  anon

As someone who has been keeping a car in the city during covid, every parking space eliminated is a step in the right direction. Ultimately we should be pushing towards eliminating private car usage in Manhattan entirely as a long term goal. In the interim, giving public space back to restaurants that serve the public instead of for private car storage is clearly a net positive. It’s also not even that many spaces on the UWS as there are almost no restaurants on cross streets. Hopefully the next step is resident only parking permits as a bridge to TLC plates, commercial vehicles, and busses only in the long run.

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anon
anon
1 year ago
Reply to  UWS78

This is silly. You can’t eliminate private cars in Manhattan. If I want to go away for the weekend, take the kids to their sports games, visit my parents do you propose I take a train to NJ and then rent a car? Or could I rent a car in Manhattan but not own a car?

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Al Fresco
Al Fresco
1 year ago

A bright spot in this otherwise dismal year. Love the creativity and innovative solutions of these restaurateurs. All seasons al fresco!

Now if only we could get rid of the scaffolding.

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What say you?
What say you?
1 year ago

Heat lamp or no, not sure I’ll be availing myself of this in January, but I suppose everybody’s different.

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Jean Luke
Jean Luke
1 year ago

This is great news. The outdoor dining is a real lifeline to NYC restaurants and also great for people who like to dine out. I hope owners will install better looking outdoor spaces. Most of them look so ramshackle and cheap. The new outdoor shed by the former Guyers looks great.

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Owl
Owl
1 year ago

YaY!

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Sam Koo
Sam Koo
1 year ago

I’m so proud of Hizzoner.
Now more people of the world will come to NY instead of going to Paris. One thing missing was outdoor dining.
Thank you.

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Pepper
Pepper
1 year ago
Reply to  Sam Koo

Trust me…with all the negative press New York has been getting internationally, no one wants to come here. Outdoor dining in the winter is not going to change that.

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Margaret Rand
Margaret Rand
1 year ago

Great idea! At least worth a try.

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RobbieTheK
RobbieTheK
1 year ago

Alas kerosene lamps are still not permitted and all are in short supply https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1309486220716670977?s=19

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Craig
Craig
1 year ago

I see the sale of hot chocolate soaring this winter

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Charlie
Charlie
1 year ago

I predict a new dining craze focused on foods that do not need to be served hot. Think of a menu featuring borschts, tartares, ceviches and sashimi. And some nice raw vegetables.

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nemo paradise
nemo paradise
1 year ago
Reply to  Charlie

Prix fix menu at the Heat Lamp Cafe:

Iceberg lettuce salad
Vichyssoise
Tuna carpaccio
Steak Tartare
Baked Alaska/Assorted sorbets

Complimentary frozen Margarita

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js
js
1 year ago

This will help restaurants that are popular and well-situated. But lots of places are not.
(Places popular with younger affluent – like Jacob’s Pickle or the chain Bluestone Lane – seem to be doing fine.) A tax reduction would be more equitable.

And this won’t help local stores.
Between Covid, Amazon and the expanding Target, it looks like local stores will be annihilated.

Strangely, there are a bunch of new nail salons….

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Lynn Shardlow
Lynn Shardlow
1 year ago

Just in Time
Thank you
Brilliant…

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Violation enforcement
Violation enforcement
1 year ago

What’s with the store “Bagels and Company“ at 79th St. and Amsterdam Avenue with all the seating and tables all so close together aren’t they supposed to be 6 feet apart‼️😷

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Jazzy Jonah
Jazzy Jonah
1 year ago

Not sure how this is gonna work out, but moreover we will see how it goes. It will definitely worth a try.

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Roger K
Roger K
1 year ago

It’s good for businesses but some restaurants are definitely taking advantage of it all. Tables too close together, acting like they own the sidewalks and not caring about their neighbors who don’t want to hear their noise and music.

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sam
sam
1 year ago
Reply to  Roger K

It may be useful to reach out to your Council Member and the Mayor’s Office.

https://council.nyc.gov/districts/

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/index.page

I was on Columbus and had to walk on the street because the restaurant took over the sidewalk. I was glad they were busy and didn’t mind as it wasn’t forever but now it is.

I think privatizing public spaces during a pandemic is fine but forever is a really long time to dodge servers and heat lamps.

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Boris
Boris
1 year ago
Reply to  Roger K

Have you tried speaking with the owners to express your concerns? Complaining here is kind of useless unless you’re willing to take action.

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Cyrus
Cyrus
1 year ago
Reply to  Boris

“Complaining here is kind of useless”

You must be new

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G
G
1 year ago

Sidewalk dining or shuttered dark restaurants? I’ll take the former.

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Michael Palmer
Michael Palmer
1 year ago

I was told that Propane Heat lamps are not allowed in NYC on sidewalks or streets. As far as electric heat lamps are concerned the electric conduit will need to be run above ground in order for it to be cost affective,

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Outdoor Dining Will Continue In the Winter and Beyond; Heat Lamps Allowed Too


Photo by Emily Yourman.

Mayor de Blasio said the city will allow restaurants to set up seating outside year-round, and the policy will continue indefinitely. De Blasio told WNYC host Brian Lehrer outdoor dining will be “permanent and year-round” on Friday, cheering advocates for the city’s restaurants.

A manager at Serafina on 77th Street and Broadway, for instance, told CBS this week that the restaurant was waiting for approval from the city on heat lamps. Without them, the restaurant was suffering.

AnnaMaria Matteis, manager at Serafina on the Upper West Side, said she could solve chilly diners’ problems immediately with heat lamps, but she says the city has yet to provide clear guidelines on outdoor heating.

Matteis said it’s costing her customers.

“We have so many reservations that called and said tonight is going to be too cold, and they cancel,” Matteis said.

Electric heat lamps will be allowed on the sidewalk and street but gas heat will only be allowed on the sidewalk, Gothamist reports.

The NYC Hospitality Alliance, which advocates for restaurants and hotels, called outdoor dining “a critical lifeline for thousands of small businesses and jobs throughout the five boroughs during the COVID-19 pandemic.”

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Rich
Rich
1 year ago

I wonder how this is going to work…I smell lawsuits and even fires in the future

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anon
anon
1 year ago

At some point life will get back to normal is and the lack of parking spaces will be a problem

0
Reply
Paul
Paul
1 year ago
Reply to  anon

The beauty of the use of the commercial streets is in the fact that Covid made the metered spots useless otherwise. Those spaces were empty.
We’re not getting back to normal for at least a year.

But when we do and restaurants return to full indoor dining, with groups of patrons that frequently include out of area residents visiting their local friends and family, they are likely to want the parking to be available.

For now and through next summer this is fine. “Permanent” may not be such a great idea.

0
Reply
UWS78
UWS78
1 year ago
Reply to  anon

As someone who has been keeping a car in the city during covid, every parking space eliminated is a step in the right direction. Ultimately we should be pushing towards eliminating private car usage in Manhattan entirely as a long term goal. In the interim, giving public space back to restaurants that serve the public instead of for private car storage is clearly a net positive. It’s also not even that many spaces on the UWS as there are almost no restaurants on cross streets. Hopefully the next step is resident only parking permits as a bridge to TLC plates, commercial vehicles, and busses only in the long run.

0
Reply
anon
anon
1 year ago
Reply to  UWS78

This is silly. You can’t eliminate private cars in Manhattan. If I want to go away for the weekend, take the kids to their sports games, visit my parents do you propose I take a train to NJ and then rent a car? Or could I rent a car in Manhattan but not own a car?

0
Reply
Al Fresco
Al Fresco
1 year ago

A bright spot in this otherwise dismal year. Love the creativity and innovative solutions of these restaurateurs. All seasons al fresco!

Now if only we could get rid of the scaffolding.

0
Reply
What say you?
What say you?
1 year ago

Heat lamp or no, not sure I’ll be availing myself of this in January, but I suppose everybody’s different.

0
Reply
Jean Luke
Jean Luke
1 year ago

This is great news. The outdoor dining is a real lifeline to NYC restaurants and also great for people who like to dine out. I hope owners will install better looking outdoor spaces. Most of them look so ramshackle and cheap. The new outdoor shed by the former Guyers looks great.

0
Reply
Owl
Owl
1 year ago

YaY!

0
Reply
Sam Koo
Sam Koo
1 year ago

I’m so proud of Hizzoner.
Now more people of the world will come to NY instead of going to Paris. One thing missing was outdoor dining.
Thank you.

0
Reply
Pepper
Pepper
1 year ago
Reply to  Sam Koo

Trust me…with all the negative press New York has been getting internationally, no one wants to come here. Outdoor dining in the winter is not going to change that.

0
Reply
Margaret Rand
Margaret Rand
1 year ago

Great idea! At least worth a try.

0
Reply
RobbieTheK
RobbieTheK
1 year ago

Alas kerosene lamps are still not permitted and all are in short supply https://twitter.com/nycjim/status/1309486220716670977?s=19

0
Reply
Craig
Craig
1 year ago

I see the sale of hot chocolate soaring this winter

0
Reply
Charlie
Charlie
1 year ago

I predict a new dining craze focused on foods that do not need to be served hot. Think of a menu featuring borschts, tartares, ceviches and sashimi. And some nice raw vegetables.

0
Reply
nemo paradise
nemo paradise
1 year ago
Reply to  Charlie

Prix fix menu at the Heat Lamp Cafe:

Iceberg lettuce salad
Vichyssoise
Tuna carpaccio
Steak Tartare
Baked Alaska/Assorted sorbets

Complimentary frozen Margarita

0
Reply
js
js
1 year ago

This will help restaurants that are popular and well-situated. But lots of places are not.
(Places popular with younger affluent – like Jacob’s Pickle or the chain Bluestone Lane – seem to be doing fine.) A tax reduction would be more equitable.

And this won’t help local stores.
Between Covid, Amazon and the expanding Target, it looks like local stores will be annihilated.

Strangely, there are a bunch of new nail salons….

0
Reply
Lynn Shardlow
Lynn Shardlow
1 year ago

Just in Time
Thank you
Brilliant…

0
Reply
Violation enforcement
Violation enforcement
1 year ago

What’s with the store “Bagels and Company“ at 79th St. and Amsterdam Avenue with all the seating and tables all so close together aren’t they supposed to be 6 feet apart‼️😷

0
Reply
Jazzy Jonah
Jazzy Jonah
1 year ago

Not sure how this is gonna work out, but moreover we will see how it goes. It will definitely worth a try.

0
Reply
Roger K
Roger K
1 year ago

It’s good for businesses but some restaurants are definitely taking advantage of it all. Tables too close together, acting like they own the sidewalks and not caring about their neighbors who don’t want to hear their noise and music.

0
Reply
sam
sam
1 year ago
Reply to  Roger K

It may be useful to reach out to your Council Member and the Mayor’s Office.

https://council.nyc.gov/districts/

https://www1.nyc.gov/office-of-the-mayor/index.page

I was on Columbus and had to walk on the street because the restaurant took over the sidewalk. I was glad they were busy and didn’t mind as it wasn’t forever but now it is.

I think privatizing public spaces during a pandemic is fine but forever is a really long time to dodge servers and heat lamps.

0
Reply
Boris
Boris
1 year ago
Reply to  Roger K

Have you tried speaking with the owners to express your concerns? Complaining here is kind of useless unless you’re willing to take action.

0
Reply
Cyrus
Cyrus
1 year ago
Reply to  Boris

“Complaining here is kind of useless”

You must be new

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Reply
G
G
1 year ago

Sidewalk dining or shuttered dark restaurants? I’ll take the former.

0
Reply
Michael Palmer
Michael Palmer
1 year ago

I was told that Propane Heat lamps are not allowed in NYC on sidewalks or streets. As far as electric heat lamps are concerned the electric conduit will need to be run above ground in order for it to be cost affective,

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