SUBWAY SHOOTING STARTS WITH STARE-DOWN ON 2 TRAIN: REPORT
A 19-year-old man was shot late Tuesday on the subway platform at 110th street after getting off the 2 train, according to a report in the Daily News.
“The gunman and a 19-year-old woman with pink hair got on the northbound No. 2 train at W. 96th St. on the Upper West Side around 11 p.m., cops said.
They exchanged “hard stares” with the victim and his pals before the man pulled a gun, police said.
Panicked straphangers fled onto the W. 110 St. and Lenox Ave. station platform, where the victim lunged at the gunman.
The shooter squeezed off a single shot, striking the teen in the upper arm on the platform.
The gunman, described as a Hispanic man in his 20s with curly hair, a red shirt and black backpack, took off on W. 111th St.”
The victim was taken to St. Luke’s Hospital in stable condition.
If you have information, call the NYPD Crime Stoppers at (800) 577-TIPS, use the Crime Stoppers website, or text tips to 274637 (CRIMES) and enter TIP577.
Is anyone else seeing a trend here, since DeBlasio took office, of more shooting, more violence, and more homeless on the streets.
#goingbackwardssucks
Yes, other conservatives will also see the trend you are describing.
#youseewhatyoubelieve #ConfirmationBias
You are seeing a trend, but that doesn’t mean the trend is real.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs020pct.pdf
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs024pct.pdf
No, there is no trend here. You say this over and over, but that doesn’t make it any more true than the last several times you (and many others on this message board) have said it. We GET IT!!! You don’t like de Blasio. That doesn’t change the fact that this is not his fault. There were more shootings and violence under Giuliani and Bloomberg.
Just out of curiosity…..does anyone know the race/ethnicity of the “victim”?
i am liberal, far from conservative, and also see this trend. It’s too big to ignore or deny.
i too see a trend. is it coincidence? who knows? but remember this: this police force turned it’s back—physically—to the mayor of this city.
for a group like that, trends like this one help, not hinder their ’cause’. if police can ward off this type of crime they can also ‘facilitate’ it.
this is inarguable, unfortuenately.
Certainly the number of crimes reported on this blog has significantly increased in the 4+ years I have been following.
My question is: did the blog not report these crimes in 2012-2013 to the same extent, or are the increasing posts reflecting increasing criminal activity?
I would prefer leaving the police “statistics” out, but wonder if the moderator could comment.
I’m sure Mr. B. Bernstein can answer your question
It may be a combination of things. The NYPD, particularly the 24th precinct, has been more open about discussing what’s going on in the neighborhood, and reaching out to the public for information over the past couple of years. Under the previous administration it was often harder for us to get information. So that’s a positive change. We’ve also got more tipsters sending us information about crimes and shootings, so that may also add to the number of reports. WSR
Numbers don’t lie. I am posting a link to 20th and 24th Precincts’ crime statistics. Numbers are overwhelmingly down. As much as I don’t love De Blasio, there has been no sharp spike in crime in our neighborhood since he’s been mayor.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs020pct.pdf
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs024pct.pdf
Thank you. This is so important. I don’t like DeBlasio either, but every crime that occurs is not evidence that the city is falling apart.
Not to be a conspiracy nut, but in this day and age why would one believe any of these statistics. The people embracing the “drop” in crime under the current mayor would also have been the first to decry the “lying” Bush administration (see WMD) or the “horrible” unemployment rate of 5% in 2006. So why not consider that the current numbers are being “massaged” to curry favor…
I am an equal opportunity skeptic on statistics. Its a sad commentary on our times that the supposed neutral and non-partisan arbiters of records (such as the IRS, HHS and Labor dept) are now the willing pawns of their agenda driven masters.
so if you believe the NYPD is “lying” in the statistics or somehow cooking the numbers (and of course no proof of this is offered), when did they start doing this? under Giuliani? Bloomberg? or was it just when De Blasio came in?
and if they are cooking the numbers, then why don’t ALL the numbers show drops? are they just carefuklyl going over them to make them look authentic?
Avi (West Sider) reports that it is easier now to get information from NYPD precincts. let’s note that this is smart community policing. On a number of occasions, criminals have been caught after the 24th and possibly the 20th gave out photos and info. Also if there are certain areas that show an uptick, then residents can be wary and alert in those areas.
for the record, i’m highly skeptical that there is any cooking of he numbers.
Sigh….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/12/nypd-compstat_n_3587637.html
so sighing Sam posted something from the Bloomberg era. is it your contention that Bloomberg’s NYPD was “cooking the numbers”? and if so, how does this prove that the De Blasio era numbers, showing LOWER crime, are false?
you would have to argue that De Blasio started cooking the numbers MORE. let’s show a little logic here.
No Bernstein I’m some pointing out that there have been and most likely continue to be books being cooked as the external audit confirmed.
I do not have any feeling one way or another about Bloomberg vs Diblasio as far as crime goes. I don’t believe there is much logic to that argument. I do however believe that compstat is an inherently flawed system. Putting your finger on the pulse of a neighborhood is a lot more telling that statistics
the “pulse of the neighborhood” is that it is an extremely safe neighborhood with low crime, and with crime continuing to fall.
The fact is Bruce, you feel safe and that’s great. You’ve lived here forever and you’re a real NY’er, and it’s better than it was in the 70s-90s, etc,etc,etc
However there are many people who don’t agree with you on this. Not everyone has your 30+ years of experience here and they are as entitled to their opinions on safety as you.
it’s not a question of “better than the 70s.” crime on the UWS is lower than it was last year, or two years ago, or five years ago, or during the vaunted Giuliani era.
the idea that the neighborhood is “deteriorating” does not reflect reality. there is such a thing as reality.
you’re entitled to an opinion, but the FACT is we live in a safe neighborhood.
Walk your 3 year old daughter down the block day after day and see how safe you feel.
Sam, the neighborhood is no more dangerous for fathers w/ children than it ever was. probably less dangerous.
i can’t recall any incident ever happening to a parent walking with a child. knock on wood.
maybe the UWS will never be pristine enough for you to feel comfortable w/ your family. as you said, you have the right to feel that way. at the end of the day you might decide that it’s not right for you.
there are plenty of parents with young children walking around… and more every day.
But Bruce do you see once again how you are using a reference to another time? Once again you are citing history which frankly means very little to more recent residents.
And as far as nothing happening to parents and children, what about Paul RL and his experience last November (see below). I recall a number of similar stories on here that our neighbors have posted. This stuff is happening more than you think.
“just this afternoon on 94th & & Broadway, a whacked out druggie/drunk started touching himself in front of my 3 year old daughter and friend’s 3 year old son.”
if indeed some guy did start “touching himself” sexually (that seems to be what Paul RL meant) in public, much less in front of 3 year olds… then that is a crime. So I hope Paul RL reported the guy and had him arrested. that shouldn’t have been too hard to do from Bway.
I’m also curious what the naysayers suggest we do to turn around this trend that they see, despite the statistics. Is it back to “stop and frisk”, which has been found improper by the courts, Bratton says doesn’t work, and no doubt the writers have not been subject to? And if not that, what? There’s always plenty of complaining, but I don’t see any suggestions other than throw the bum out.
I think there is a trend too. I’m relatively new to the upper west side but I think the crimes from last year to this year have increased and I never see any police presence. Also, the homeless on the streets are increasing as are the solicitations on our trains. Just an observation.
You see a trend how? More stories in the news? One of your friends was robbed?
Why do you think crimes have increased from last year to this year?
You can’t have an idea if you’ve just moved here in the past year or two, how would you know what changes have happened? A lot of us have lived her much longer and can talk about Upper West Side. What your real estate agent told you is more of a problem than any homeless people down on their luck.
There seems to be a lot of concern about “crime”/”violence” on this comment page. As a senior citizen with limited income and as a resident for 50 years on the west Side, I am more concerned about other things like affordable housing, jobs, discrimination, etc. Also, as an “antidote” to violence, look round at the beautiful spring we are experiencing on the UWS with flowers blooming and trees turning green.
amen MLM! I don’t seed the mayhem around us that other people believe is there. I see a very nice neighborhood, one of the safest in the city, which has a serious problem with affordable housing and small businesses being driven out.
hahaha. a flowering tree really will make me feel better after I’m robbed.
MLM – I’m in a committed relationship and 30 years your junior but…. would you marry me?
POLICE LOOK TO COMBAT RISE IN MANHATTAN VALLEY SHOOTINGS; MORE ON SUNDAY VIOLENCE
Posted on April 27, 2015 at 9:25 pm by West Sider
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After three shootings in Manhattan Valley this year, versus two for all of last year, police plan to focus special attention on the area, says Captain Marlon Larin, the 24th precinct’s commanding officer.
https://www.westsiderag.com/2015/04/27/police-look-to-combat-rise-in-manhattan-valley-shootings-more-on-sunday-violence
(This makes shooting incident #4 for 2015)
this incident didn’t take place in Manhattan Valley. it took place in Harlem.
110th st is on the edge of Manhattan Valley, and the person with the gun got on at 96th, the UWS. Being a couple blocks away doesn’t diminish what happened and where.
110th and Lenox is Harlem. learn your geography.
And our slide backwards continues. I live across the street from this subway station, and the fact that people are running around both with guns and the impunity to use them on a crowded train is simply unacceptable. Yes, there was crime under Bloomberg and Giuliani, but those Mayors came with an attitude that broken windows and criminals would NOT define our city. They also had the common sense and care for law-abiding citizens to give the NYPD the tools they needed to do their jobs. Our current Mayor and City Council seem far more interested in breaking our police department rather than supporting it, and decriminalizing crimes rather than punishing offenders.
All of us who are concerned should contact our elected officials to show our outrage.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – we deserve better than this.
sadly, you seem to use every crime incident — even crime incidents in Harlem, which is nowhere near where you live — to push your right wing political agenda.
do you really believe that “criminals and broken windows” “define our city”? thus us hystericism.
what “tools” has the Mayor taken away from the NYPD?
your endless denigration of this neighborhood is way out of bounds.
You want to label me? Fine. Yes, so I am against crime and I believe our Mayor and City Council turn a blind eye to it – just as you do. In your case, you have shrugged off every single incident reported on this blog, including, amazingly rape. Your attacks on anyone who expresses a desire to not have to live in fear of taking a stray bullet, get mugged, have their car broken into, or even express outrage about children getting their sleds stolen is beyond macabre. I’m a tax-paying, voting citizen and I could care less whether my Mayor is a Dem or Republican, but I am concerned with what I see happening on the street, and I’ve seen my neighborhood decline over the past few years, so I’m upset and express my opinion about it, as is my right.
You’re an intelligent guy Bruce, and your desire for diversity is admirable – except when someone’s opinion diverges from your own.
Now, I know you live for replies & responses to your own comments. How did I do?
you lied your head off. you know full well that I have not “shrugged off rape.” nor any other crime.
but i’m sick and tired of you painting this neighborhood as a degenerating den of thieves. i walk up and down Broadway every weekend. it is hardly murder and mayhem… it’s actually a wonderful neighborhood, with sadly too many empty stores.
nor is it full of panhandlers and homeless.
Maybe you object to the used book dealers north of 96th street. i happen to like them… and at least one of them could kick your butt in chess.
You’re being kind here. I’m a pretty good chess player, but I’ll bet every one of those guys can kick my butt. At any rate, I love the booksellers, fruitstanders, Halal carts, and coffee carts. I wish there were more of them, especially the booksellers, in lieu of our long-lost storefronts. Having traveled extensively in other parts of the world, I believe they add a lot of color and life to our streets, as well as add to a safety factor.
Now, l may not be getting murdered or mayhemmed every time I walk up and down Broadway, but I am getting panhandled and homelessed. It’s worse than it was 20 years ago. But you’re entitled to your blindness and denials, as well as your backpeddling on your own past postings.
and you also now full well that neither the Mayor nor either of our UWS councilpeople (Rosenthal and Levine) “turn a blind eye” to crime. Or you should know that.
” your right wing political agenda. ”
Ah, yes… anyone who expresses views that Mr. Bruce Bernstein characterizes as “right wing” (or any number of other labels that he applies pejoratively) must be motivated by a (nefarious or at least less-than-respectable) “political agenda”. While Mr. Bernstein and those who share /his/ (decidedly leftist) views and political goals can never have any such motivations. Such champions of “social and economic justice” are, as we all know, motivated only by the purest, most altruistic and noblest sentiments, desires and goals– never a “political agenda”.
For those who may have missed it or do not recall, this is the same Bruce Bernstein who back on February 3rd posted a link to a highly tendentious, distinctly leftist* web site, with the following incredibly patronizing and self-righteous comment,
[1]
(*The site-in-question is at least as worthy of being called “ultra”, “extreme” or “arch” leftist as just about anything that Mr. Bernstein would characterize as “ultra”, “extreme” or “arch” right-wing, conservative or “reactionary”.)
Just imagine how Mr. Bernstein or one of his compatriots would respond if someone were to post a link to a source that was comparably tendentious and biased to the one he had posted but in an opposite ideological direction, with the comment, “If you’re open minded on this…”.
Just incredible.
NOTES:
[1] https://www.westsiderag.com/2015/02/02/american-bible-society-to-depart-for-philly-as-building-sells-for-300-million#comment-259755
See “Cato”s reply at the above URL.
To Independent….You realize that you are never gonna penetrate the mind of Mr. Bernstein or any of his ilk, as you will have to unravel years of loony-leftist inculcation and indoctrination?
Still…..Like watching a rodent in a sealed maze, Mr. Bernstein can provide hours of entertainment as he pitter-patters from one dead-end argument to the next.
… and i assume that you support strong gun control laws (as I do)… which is how guns are kept off the street.
Yes, of course I do. That makes you and I TWICE on the same page. Once for our opposition on the JHL Nursing Home (sort of), and once on this issue. Not bad!
By your logic, that the NYPD is being deprived of the “tools” they need to effectively perform their jobs (whether it be through budget cuts, general disregard from city hall, etc) then wouldn’t the NYPD have an insentive to INCREASE the crime statistics, not decrease them — thus showing that DeBlasios tactics are ineffective and hopefully harming his chances at any reelection. But the fact remains that compstats show a fall in crime rates. however the NYPDs figures show a decline, which, in fact hurts their supposed political agenda against DeBlasio. Just saying.
Sure, because we all know that the overwhelmingly majority of firearms that were used in violent crimes were purchased legally…
Here are Bruce Bernstein’s comments from February regarding the sled incident reported at that time. People can judge for themselves whether Paul RL’s characterization of them here is fair. I, for one, think it is.
TEENS STEAL KIDS’ SLEDS AND ASSAULT THEM: POLICE
First, some excerpts from the news entry, to provide context:
Now, some excerpts from Bruce Bernstein’s comments:
( https://www.westsiderag.com/2015/02/06/kids-say-teens-stole-their-sleds-assaulted-them#comment-260067 )
( https://www.westsiderag.com/2015/02/06/kids-say-teens-stole-their-sleds-assaulted-them#comment-260079 )
I would like to quote some comments that were posted back at the end of February, as I find them apropos here.
The entry was:
STATS SHOW ROBBERIES, BURGLARIES DOWN SHARPLY IN 20TH PRECINCT
“Chris” wrote,
( February 25, 2015 at 8:15 pm)
I replied,
“Paul RL” then replied to me,
(February 27, 2015 at 10:41 am)
Some of Bruce Bernstein’s inflammatory characterizations of Paul RL* inspired me, particularly, to re-post this comment of his in which he describes his own personal experience and that of his family, living in the specific area-in-question.
I appreciated that response from Paul RL to my question (one that I had asked of someone else, no less). I had begun working on a response to Paul but unfortunately never managed to finish and post it.
I will now address Paul directly.
Sir, I certainly appreciate and sympathize with your disgust and concern over what you described. I must say, however, that I was somewhat disturbed by your final paragraph. First, I would point-out that feces and saliva are a biohazard. And public lewdness is neither psychologically nor morally healthy. Thus, I would challenge your characterization of what you described as not being dangerous or “truly” dangerous.
But even if not posing any actual (or at least quantifiable) danger or leading to anything worse, everything that you have described is, in and of itself, already completely unacceptable. No one, anywhere, should have to tolerate such noxious nuisances.
(I grew-up in the area-in-question but was away for many years before returning within the past two years.)
The obsession with Bruce is getting weird.
thank you UWS-er. true. In some way i feel like i’ve “made it.” 🙂
I didn’t bother to read the rant above… too long and i wasn’t very interested.
It does creep me out a little that one commenter keeps doing internet searches into my personal life, and making comments about my family, living situation, etc (many of which are inaccurate). But that’s not going to intimidate me from posting my thoughts. i believe that it IS an intimidation technique.
More sensible and progressive (and reality-based) people need to comment on WSR. The current comment mix does not reflect the overall population of the UWS. My progressive views are entirely mainstream for this community. But it’s kind of shocking what is lurking in the shadows.
I just think it’s bizarre how many people seem to think society is crumbling around us. I live on the UWS, I have young kids, it’s one of the most wonderful places on earth to be.
agreed. it is absolutely crazy. I have theories as to why this is but i won’t venture them, at least right now.
i don’t know if you saw the newest post, where the UWS was picked the second best neighborhood in the country for seniors by AARP. So people immediately started trashing AARP… “don’t they know about all the crime” blah blah blah.
i think there is a very small subset of people on the UWS who think like this, but they congregate on this site.
yes, our super strict NYC gun control laws are just fabulously successful at keeping guns off the the streets. hahaha. I can’t help but laugh as I type that.