By Carol Tannenhauser
A verbal dispute between a 22-year-old man and a 19-year-old man turned physical Wednesday morning at around 11 AM on the southbound D train at the Columbus Circle-59th Street station. The 19 year old slashed the 22 year old on his arm and back, police said.
Both were arrested.
The 22 year old then went to Mt. Sinai hospital in stable condition.
By Carol Tannenhauser
A verbal dispute between a 22-year-old man and a 19-year-old man turned physical Wednesday morning at around 11 AM on the southbound D train at the Columbus Circle-59th Street station. The 19 year old slashed the 22 year old on his arm and back, police said.
Both were arrested.
The 22 year old then went to Mt. Sinai hospital in stable condition.
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Geez, how many people are carrying box cutters or knives. And by the way, if you are carrying these, 9 times out of 10, your intentions aren’t good
Duh…maybe it’s time to arrest fare beaters and bring back stop and frisk and strike some fear into criminals instead of only the other way around…ya think? Do you really think the stabber paid his fare? Who are the almost two thirds of New Yorkers who keep voting for soft on crime wokesters?
I would love to know who these “wokesters” are that you refer to. The main political leader who is responsible for the Police Department is Mayor Adams, who is not soft on crime. As for stop and frisk, it’s unconstitutional. What other rights do you think we should give up?
But I do agree fare beaters can and should be caught and prosecuted. But if you think that alone will stop crime in the subways I have a bridge you might be interested in.
Stop and frisk is NOT unconstitutional and was never declared such. The way NYPD PRACTICED IT was declared unconstitutional and reforms implemented.
HUGE difference.
Even you agree that a farebeaters should be caught and arrested – which, in practicality, will happen via stop and frisk. An officer will observe the infraction (thus developing reasonable suspicion thereof) and stop the perpetrator.
The wokesters are the radical left politicians in Albany who’ve leveraged past mistakes and taken us so far away from basic common sense that criminals are emboldened like never before, while police are demoralized and basically forced to do nothing.
If you think that the vast majority of people who go into the subway to commit crime pay their fare first…well perhaps a Venn diagram would help regarding the impact of arresting farebeaters on overall crime.
Common sense. Commit an infraction that can result in arrest (e.g., police witness someone jumping a turnstile or walking through an exit gate), and the police have the right to search the person. And I fully support arresting these college kids who do the same.
Still like to know who these mysterious wokesters are and what specific laws they’ve passed that have had a demonstrable impact on crime. And when someone says “bring back stop and frisk” they are saying they want to bring it back to what was done before, which was deemed unconstitutional. Plus it’s preposterous to argue that cops are now forbidden from stopping individuals they’ve observed committing a crime. If that we’re the case, arrests would be impossible. Crime is a problem, but hackneyed commentary about it gets us nowhere.
You really need to know who the “wokesters” are? Really? How about Senator Jackson, Danny O’Donnell, Gale Brewer, everyone in Albany, The Manhattan DA. You don’t think the decisions they have made the last 2 years has caused an increase in crime? How about the BAIL REFORM LAW? That ring a bell? If someone can shoplift a store 100 times and just keep getting Desk Appearance Tickets where they never show up, that adds to the crimes count, no?
Why does reducing farebeating have to “stop crime in the subways”? If it keeps out a fair number of dangerous individuals, it will have accomplished something. The best solutions are incremental.
When fare-beaters were stopped and their fingerprints processed, the police caught many a perp. The one I always remember is John Royster. He was caught jumping a turnstile. When they ran his prints, his prints matched the young pianist who was beaten nearly to death in Central Park and the woman who was killed opening her dry cleaning establishment on Park Avenue. So, no, the best solution is catch fare-beaters and process their prints, like we used to do it.
I agree. My point was that arresting fare-beaters alone will not get rid of the crime-in-the-subways problem, but it’s a great start that should have a disproportionate effect.
I couldn’t agree more. Arrest and prosecute farebeaters using somem plainclothes units that can also be patrolling stations. Once it becomes known that there’s a real risk of being taken away in handcuffs, farebeating will drop. And so will crime in the subways.
There’s a lot missing from this post. According to local TV news sources, the 19 year-old injured the 22 year-old because the 22 year-old was spitting on passengers.
Both were arrested? Is this standard practice?
@Melissa B
Thank you for the update. This makes the incident even more horrible. Poor straphangers
@Bill
Mayor Adams is all talk, and no action. NYC crime is worse, not better. Adams didn’t accomplish anything so far.
Mayor Gonna-do. We’re’re waiting.
YES. Everything is worse. And nobody is doing anything to stop it. NO ONE.
Where are the cops? Where are the camera’s. Why are people allowed t jump the turnstile. Arrest them.
The DA’s office itself said at a community meeting that they do not want to put people “into the system” (for turnstyle jumping” as “it’s a path that could lead them down the wrong road”. So nothing is done and that’s why everything is a big free for all. The jumpers know that nothing is going to happen to them and they actually DO go down a worse path as far as we have all seen.
Bragg/Adams team is not going for get NYC out of the crime wave we have been experiencing far too long. I didn’t hear yet one meaningful measure at reducing crime. Only lip service about getting our subways safer. Are they any safer? Come on, in half a year things could have improved significantly if Adams did something instead of being afraid to offend woke crowd.
@life long upper-west-sider
We New Yorkers can do something. We can stop voting democrat as painful as it is for our liberal crowd including myself. But safety comes first. Enough!
This crime wave isn’t giving away. The closure of Rikers Island is a permanent downsizing of the NYC jail system. The system will have room for thousands of fewer inmates. They will have no jail space so they will have no choice but to give out desk appearance tickets. It’s going to get worse.
Geez, how many people are carrying box cutters or knives. And by the way, if you are carrying these, 9 times out of 10, your intentions aren’t good
Duh…maybe it’s time to arrest fare beaters and bring back stop and frisk and strike some fear into criminals instead of only the other way around…ya think? Do you really think the stabber paid his fare? Who are the almost two thirds of New Yorkers who keep voting for soft on crime wokesters?
I would love to know who these “wokesters” are that you refer to. The main political leader who is responsible for the Police Department is Mayor Adams, who is not soft on crime. As for stop and frisk, it’s unconstitutional. What other rights do you think we should give up?
But I do agree fare beaters can and should be caught and prosecuted. But if you think that alone will stop crime in the subways I have a bridge you might be interested in.
Stop and frisk is NOT unconstitutional and was never declared such. The way NYPD PRACTICED IT was declared unconstitutional and reforms implemented.
HUGE difference.
Even you agree that a farebeaters should be caught and arrested – which, in practicality, will happen via stop and frisk. An officer will observe the infraction (thus developing reasonable suspicion thereof) and stop the perpetrator.
The wokesters are the radical left politicians in Albany who’ve leveraged past mistakes and taken us so far away from basic common sense that criminals are emboldened like never before, while police are demoralized and basically forced to do nothing.
If you think that the vast majority of people who go into the subway to commit crime pay their fare first…well perhaps a Venn diagram would help regarding the impact of arresting farebeaters on overall crime.
Common sense. Commit an infraction that can result in arrest (e.g., police witness someone jumping a turnstile or walking through an exit gate), and the police have the right to search the person. And I fully support arresting these college kids who do the same.
Still like to know who these mysterious wokesters are and what specific laws they’ve passed that have had a demonstrable impact on crime. And when someone says “bring back stop and frisk” they are saying they want to bring it back to what was done before, which was deemed unconstitutional. Plus it’s preposterous to argue that cops are now forbidden from stopping individuals they’ve observed committing a crime. If that we’re the case, arrests would be impossible. Crime is a problem, but hackneyed commentary about it gets us nowhere.
You really need to know who the “wokesters” are? Really? How about Senator Jackson, Danny O’Donnell, Gale Brewer, everyone in Albany, The Manhattan DA. You don’t think the decisions they have made the last 2 years has caused an increase in crime? How about the BAIL REFORM LAW? That ring a bell? If someone can shoplift a store 100 times and just keep getting Desk Appearance Tickets where they never show up, that adds to the crimes count, no?
Why does reducing farebeating have to “stop crime in the subways”? If it keeps out a fair number of dangerous individuals, it will have accomplished something. The best solutions are incremental.
When fare-beaters were stopped and their fingerprints processed, the police caught many a perp. The one I always remember is John Royster. He was caught jumping a turnstile. When they ran his prints, his prints matched the young pianist who was beaten nearly to death in Central Park and the woman who was killed opening her dry cleaning establishment on Park Avenue. So, no, the best solution is catch fare-beaters and process their prints, like we used to do it.
I agree. My point was that arresting fare-beaters alone will not get rid of the crime-in-the-subways problem, but it’s a great start that should have a disproportionate effect.
I couldn’t agree more. Arrest and prosecute farebeaters using somem plainclothes units that can also be patrolling stations. Once it becomes known that there’s a real risk of being taken away in handcuffs, farebeating will drop. And so will crime in the subways.
There’s a lot missing from this post. According to local TV news sources, the 19 year-old injured the 22 year-old because the 22 year-old was spitting on passengers.
Both were arrested? Is this standard practice?
@Melissa B
Thank you for the update. This makes the incident even more horrible. Poor straphangers
@Bill
Mayor Adams is all talk, and no action. NYC crime is worse, not better. Adams didn’t accomplish anything so far.
Mayor Gonna-do. We’re’re waiting.
YES. Everything is worse. And nobody is doing anything to stop it. NO ONE.
Where are the cops? Where are the camera’s. Why are people allowed t jump the turnstile. Arrest them.
The DA’s office itself said at a community meeting that they do not want to put people “into the system” (for turnstyle jumping” as “it’s a path that could lead them down the wrong road”. So nothing is done and that’s why everything is a big free for all. The jumpers know that nothing is going to happen to them and they actually DO go down a worse path as far as we have all seen.
Bragg/Adams team is not going for get NYC out of the crime wave we have been experiencing far too long. I didn’t hear yet one meaningful measure at reducing crime. Only lip service about getting our subways safer. Are they any safer? Come on, in half a year things could have improved significantly if Adams did something instead of being afraid to offend woke crowd.
@life long upper-west-sider
We New Yorkers can do something. We can stop voting democrat as painful as it is for our liberal crowd including myself. But safety comes first. Enough!
This crime wave isn’t giving away. The closure of Rikers Island is a permanent downsizing of the NYC jail system. The system will have room for thousands of fewer inmates. They will have no jail space so they will have no choice but to give out desk appearance tickets. It’s going to get worse.