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    Indoor Dining Set to Start Back Up in New York City on September 30

    September 9, 2020 | 4:39 PM - Updated on June 5, 2022 | 11:44 PM
    in FOOD, NEWS, POLITICS
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    Restaurants like St. James Gate have only been able to serve people outside.

    Governor Andrew Cuomo announced on Wednesday that indoor dining in New York City will be allowed to start up again on September 30th with a 25% occupancy limit.

    “All restaurants that choose to reopen will be subject to strict safety protocols, including temperature checks, contact information for tracing, face coverings when not seated and other safety protocols,” a statement from the governor’s office said. “Bar service will not be permitted, and restaurants will close at midnight.”

    If all goes well, restaurants can increase capacity to 50% as of November 1st.

    “The New York City restaurant industry has been financially devastated by the COVID-19 pandemic and a safe return to indoor dining is critical to help save these vital small businesses and jobs,” said Andrew Rigie, executive director of the NYC Hospitality Alliance.

    Here are the rules:

    • 25 percent occupancy limit
    • Temperature checks will be required at the door for all customers
    • One member of each party will be required to provide contact information for tracing if needed
    • No bar service – bars will only be used as service bars, a source of making drinks and serving them tableside
    • Masks must be worn at all times when not seated at a table
    • Tables must be six feet apart
    • Restaurants close at midnight
    • Strict adherence to all State-issued guidance
    • Restaurants should operate with enhanced air filtration, ventilation and purification standards
    • Limit air recirculation and allow for outside air ventilation
    • Outdoor dining will continue in the interim
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    38 Comments
    UpperWest
    UpperWest
    6 years ago

    Let’s hope this is done cautiously and with compliance, and at this level (25%, tables 6 feet apart) helps restaurants buoy themselves.

    I think similar regulations in other parts of the state have gone well, and so I hope it does here as well.

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    Ethan
    Ethan
    6 years ago

    Regarding the “rules,” I don’t have a lot of faith in rules that start with “Restaurants should…” In fact, several of these “rules” seem rather vague. I hope this works!

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    Jo
    Jo
    6 years ago

    Is it just me, or should the restaurant owner know to wear a mask over his nose?

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    UWSHebrew
    UWSHebrew
    6 years ago
    Reply to  Jo

    The amount of people who wear masks below their nose is infuriating, especially when they walk by me inside a supermarket. Dr. Oz stated that you if you don’t put your mask on your nose, you may as well not weak a mask at all.

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    brian mcmanus
    brian mcmanus
    6 years ago

    Anyone who thinks that the Bar Industry can survive these restrictions is dead wrong! I predict 25% of restaurants presently in business will fail before end of year.

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    UWS78
    UWS78
    6 years ago

    Still not enough for many places to survive but it’s a start. Hopefully this quickly paves the way to 50% capacity and beyond by end of October. It’s a total farce that this is not beginning in earnest this weekend though – we don’t need three weeks to prepare for indoor dining and we’re going to lose more restaurants amid the bureaucratic delay. We need our bars and restaurants now more than ever to buoy the local economy and retain cultural capital. Hopefully Cuomo can take a break from actively trying to sink the city this fall.

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    Keith Marder
    Keith Marder
    6 years ago

    In before DeBlasio contradicts Cuomo

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    ZoomZ
    ZoomZ
    6 years ago

    It’s about time and Cuomo to the rescue.
    If only he was so cautious when ordering seniors to senior homes…
    What is crazy is asking the public to snitch on restaurants that allow more than 25% diners in.
    How in hell’s name will anybody know that there are over the 25% diners inside any restaurant? Do we know how many diners is a full eatery?
    Are we supposed to walk inside and do a head count?
    Nice going – a city of snitch peddlers.
    Sort of like…you know…un American.

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    Kindly Dr Dave
    Kindly Dr Dave
    6 years ago
    Reply to  ZoomZ

    Legal compliance can be simple and transparent. EVERY facility has a posted Maximum Occupancy poster. If it is 100,then 25 are allowed (forget table counting). A reality check is whether the city will have enough staff to check compliance. Should we UWS vigilante? Or, look the other way while savoring our chenin blanc?

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    UwsGirl
    UwsGirl
    6 years ago
    Reply to  Kindly Dr Dave

    Yes dr, you should look the other way. These people are just trying to make a living and provide for their families and have been hit very hard by all of this. You’re an adult and if you feel unsafe, you don’t have to go to a restaurant. The rest of us are also can decide for ourselves how much risk we’re willing to take on. Snitching on your fellow citizens trying to make a living makes you a communist.

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    Common sense
    Common sense
    6 years ago

    Well that for sure doesn’t make too much sense…an average restaurant in New York City has 10 tables…that means they can only use 2 1/4 tables inside. That’s not gonna work… The restaurant will close up!

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    Yup
    Yup
    6 years ago
    Reply to  Common sense

    2 and 1/2, if you do the math. We’re doomed

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    D
    D
    6 years ago

    Every such re-opening move is another nail in the coffins of those of us over 65 who, in addition to being seniors, have compromising conditions that make us especially vulnerable. We know when we’re not wanted. Our lives are clearly expendable. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

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    nhu
    nhu
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    Then stay home.

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    SenioRita
    SenioRita
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    Oh, please. I’m in my eighties and vulnerable as heck, and will continue to do what I have been doing: staying home as much as I can, taking all possible precautions when I must go out, cooking and eating delicious meals in my own kitchen, ordering the occasional pizza. I feel sorry for the restaurant owners who are at risk of losing their businesses, and hope that the new rules, which seem relatively sensible, help them, and offer some relief to the customers who can’t live without eating out. I will choose not to sit among those diners, but why would I imagine that cautiously opening restaurants somehow discriminates against me?

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    UWSHebrew
    UWSHebrew
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    Stay home. My mother is 73. She only leaves to go to the doctor or I take her for a walk outside early in the morning. I bring all her food and other needs to her apartment. Does my mother want to go to a restaurant? Museums? Of course! But she’s at great risk due to her age. Like you.

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    Boris
    Boris
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    You wouldn’t be going under any circumstances. So how does indoor dining affect you that you don’t want anyone to go?

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    MQue
    MQue
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    I’m sorry but the world can’t shut down because you dont feel safe. It’s best you maintain distance from people and stay home. We can’t afford to loose 60% of our businesses

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    Karen L. Bruno
    Karen L. Bruno
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    Then stay home!

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    Preschool teacher
    Preschool teacher
    6 years ago
    Reply to  Karen L. Bruno

    At this point, it needs to be up to each individual to assess their own risk level for participating in activities. It is no longer the beginning of the pandemic when we were all scared and confused (mostly by the media). We have good data from the CDC and state websites and we should use it to decide what we how we feel comfortable participating going forward.

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    T
    T
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    ??? Restaurants opening will somehow hurt you? If you are freaked out stay home. The death rate per capita is on par with the Asian flu in the 1950s and the Hong Kong flu in the 1960s. The 24/6 media has scared everyone way too much. Virtually no one has been dying in NYC for 3 months and it has nothing to do with restaurants being opened or closed

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    K8
    K8
    6 years ago
    Reply to  T

    “Virtually no one has been dying in NYC for 3 months”

    The families of the 30+ people who have been dying WEEKLY in NYC would disagree with your statement characterizing their loved ones as “virtually no one.” Yes, 30+ per week is way down from the peak of the pandemic in NYC, but these are individuals, not just statistics. And the number of individuals is down because of the precautions that have been taken. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-recent.page

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    babrarus
    babrarus
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    Forgot to say – I’m 77 years young.
    Cheers

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    babrarus
    babrarus
    6 years ago
    Reply to  D

    Another nail in the coffin?
    Stay home and when outside, stay 10 feet from people & wear a mask.
    That coffin will wait another 10-20 years.
    Cheer up for God’s sake.

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    Steph
    Steph
    6 years ago

    I continue to be perplexed by these standards for restaurants. Tables 6 feet apart means chairs at neighboring tables are back to back. The CHAIRS need to be 6 feet apart. How has no one noticed this????

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    lynn
    lynn
    6 years ago
    Reply to  Steph

    If the tables are 6 feet apart how is it possible for the chairs to be back to back? No one sits 3 feet away from the table.

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    Boris
    Boris
    6 years ago
    Reply to  Steph

    Um…I think everyone gets it. You’re taking the word tables too literally. It means the whole table/chair setup.

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    T
    T
    6 years ago

    At 25% they are still screwed. Let them open already!

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    Neal H Hurwitz
    Neal H Hurwitz
    6 years ago

    The outside dining has been great!!!
    Oh— Winter ahead…
    Well, we shall see, eh?
    Wear the mask while eating!!!
    xo

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    Bobby Rose
    Bobby Rose
    6 years ago

    Cuomo’s measured approach seems to be working and this looks good. I have been wondering why more restaurants are not installing outdoor heaters. Some of the restaurants across from Lincoln Center have them.

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    Jean Luke
    Jean Luke
    6 years ago
    Reply to  Bobby Rose

    Pretty sure I read somewhere that outdoor kerosene heaters are banned in the 5 boroughs.

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    Wijmlet
    Wijmlet
    6 years ago

    too soon

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    Tony
    Tony
    6 years ago

    If my rest does take out as well. And hrs of operation is till 2am and 4 am(weekends). Do I still have to close at midnight. I’ve been open for take out since the pandemic started back in March

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    Laura D
    Laura D
    6 years ago

    we’ll see how this flies…

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    West Ender
    West Ender
    6 years ago

    I will not go anywhere that requires a temperature check. It’s simply performative and isn’t a valid indication of covid19. One could be infected without having a fever. Also, temperature checks are a medical procedure. Are restaurants hiring medical professionals to do this?

    Temperature checks are the new take-off-your-shoes-at-the-airport. It doesn’t make us safer.

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    Steevie
    Steevie
    6 years ago
    Reply to  West Ender

    The temperature check is not intrusive. You have to take your hat off if it covers your forehead. Then you put your forehead about 2 inches from a thermometer which is at the correct height. After about 3 seconds the reader digitally gives and the worker your temperature. Stop acting like they are forcing you to have a colonoscopy.

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    JT
    JT
    6 years ago

    DeBlasio, Rosenthal and the Social Justice Warriors would rather see the restaurants become homeless shelters than help small businesses. Sickening.

    I abhor Trump, but some of these snowflakes really make a case for needing a truly moderate centrist.

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    Wendy
    Wendy
    6 years ago

    A new CDC study is linking eating indoors to positive test results:

    Coronavirus-positive patients twice as likely to report restaurant visit: CDC study:

    https://6abc.com/cdc-study-restaurant-restaurants-covid/6420242/

    Why would anyone choose to eat indoors, knowing this?

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