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    Old John’s Luncheonette Appears to Have Served Its Last Waffle After About 70 Years on the UWS

    October 2, 2020 | 10:48 AM
    in FOOD, NEWS, OPEN/CLOSED
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    Old John’s Luncheonette at 148 West 67th Street looks like it’s closed for good, the latest casualty of the restaurant recession brought on by Covid-19.

    Old John’s, which has been around since the 1950s, was a classic diner that had tried to reopen in July. But the sign on the window makes it clear that it didn’t last long. The phone wasn’t operating or taking messages.

    Old John’s was known for its beloved waitstaff. Even the menus had an old-school vibe.

    A GoFundMe fundraiser had raised $8,710 for the restaurant.

    “Anyone who has ever dined in or taken out, quickly learns that the staff and servers make this place so special,” wrote Molly Sherm, who organized it. “I, along with many others, have formed connections and friendships with the employees over the years and in many ways they have come to feel like family. Manny, Raul, Kathy, and many others always work hard to take care of us and get us what we need.”

    Thanks to Shiri and Jeff for the tips.

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    43 Comments
    UWSmaven
    UWSmaven
    5 years ago

    This is a neighborhood tragedy. Actually, “Old John’s” was the reincarnation of John’s Coffee Shop, located next to the Embassy Theater, (where Equinox now stands). They delivered constantly to those of us who worked at ABC and there are many great outtakes of John’s deliverymen wandering right on to the set during live broadcasts. Susan Lucci once said it was a favorite place. “Old John’s” is run by the sons of the original owner and it was a warm and friendly place with great food. But I guess with no Lincoln Center performances and no real place for outdoor dining, the die was cast. Such a shame.

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    Helaine
    Helaine
    5 years ago
    Reply to  UWSmaven

    I remember the original John’s Luncheonette as located where Century 21 is (was) now, next to Cinema Studio movie theater on Broadway between 66th and 67th. Am I misremembering?

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    EdNY
    EdNY
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Helaine

    Cinema Studio 1 & 2 were on the corner of 66th & Broadway. There was a narrow coffee shop on Broadway next to the theater. Was that it?

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    Helaine
    Helaine
    5 years ago
    Reply to  EdNY

    I thought so.

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    Susan Wadsworth
    Susan Wadsworth
    5 years ago

    It also closed because much of the clientele
    came before or after concerts at Merkin Hall,
    soconveniently located just across the street. The cooks were amazing in the wide
    range of cuisine they prepare – in addition to regular coffeeshop fare. We will miss this very much.

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    Bronx Boy
    Bronx Boy
    5 years ago

    Visiting Old John’s was like walking into New York 50 years ago. I’ll miss their French dip, tasty breakfasts, satisfying burgers and the air of urbanity.

    Plus, it was a diner with a liquor license.

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    Jo
    Jo
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Bronx Boy

    Oh. French Dip. I had forgotten. Never had the pleasure of Old John’s, but French Dip was my version of a prime rib dinner. Loses like this closing can be intensely devastating.

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    marian lamin
    marian lamin
    5 years ago

    We will miss you, old friend. Many good meals over the years

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    James Demetrios
    James Demetrios
    5 years ago

    My story with the diner is that 2 years ago, I ordered a
    Cheese omelet. When the order came, they forgot the cheese. When I mentioned it to the server, he picked up my plate, put a couple of slices of cheese on its, microwaved it and brought it back. I never went back.

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    Dan
    Dan
    5 years ago
    Reply to  James Demetrios

    Nice to hit a man while he’s down!
    #compassion

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    Jo
    Jo
    5 years ago
    Reply to  James Demetrios

    You have no sense of “flair,” nor the true diner spirit.

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    John E.
    John E.
    5 years ago
    Reply to  James Demetrios

    That story is so sad. So tragic. I’m so very sorry. I’m sure the employees who used to work there feel your pain.

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    Elizabeth Stone
    Elizabeth Stone
    5 years ago

    oh no! What a loss. I’ve taught at Fordham for many years, and for a cozy comfortable lunch I don’t go to Rosa Mexicana or even the Flame. It was always Old John’s I headed for. I’m so sorry to see it gone.

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    Bob Lamm
    Bob Lamm
    5 years ago

    I had many great meals at Old John’s, had some lovely conversations with the staff, and a great chat there one time with the actor Paul Dooley (who obviously loved the restaurant). Sad news.

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    Maggie Nunez
    Maggie Nunez
    5 years ago

    I was the original waitress when Old John’s opened at this location in the Summer of 1998. Emmanuel Kambouris, Luis Skivar and the chef Frank Casas gave me opportunities that I would have never had, they allowed me to study in between tables so I could achieve upward mobility. That was my family, my home, my everything. I made friendships that I still have to this date and received so much love from the locals who kind of adopted me. I am today a successful person with advanced degrees who was able to change her life and that of her children because of Old John’s, I was looking forward to going back after the pandemic to fill the void in my heart and support them. I am truly sad.

    – Maggie.

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    John E.
    John E.
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Maggie Nunez

    Nice story Maggie! I was so sad when Manny died. I remember when I moved into the neighborhood and how he greeted me so warmly when I first walked in. Such a nice man!

    They treated all the regulars like family. I’m heartbroken by this news.

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    Pcnyc
    Pcnyc
    5 years ago

    Sad. These little, modest communal spots give color and vibrancy to our neighborhood and are falling like dominoes.
    Where will we find respite? Corporate Columbus Circle?

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    EGF
    EGF
    5 years ago

    This one hits especially hard.

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    Brunnie
    Brunnie
    5 years ago

    Very sad!! What will the Philharmonic players do now for lunch and dinner?? They had good food, good ambiance, and near $$ Lincoln Center restaurants. Will miss them.

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    John E.
    John E.
    5 years ago

    Terrible news! Loved talking to Clarence who worked the night shift. He had great stories about the UWS. All of them were always nice to me.

    Manny must be turning over in his grave…

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    ZoomZ
    ZoomZ
    5 years ago

    One by one these places close up for good.
    If NYC will not open up soon, most will never open again.
    NYC – RIP.

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    Ken
    Ken
    5 years ago

    A real tragedy. This was one of the few remaining reasonable, congenial and unfussy sit-down restaurants in the Lincoln Center area. The city we love is slowly disappearing before our eyes.

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    Otis
    Otis
    5 years ago

    Whenever I walked by OJ’s it looked run down. Look at how grimy that maroon awning is over the door.

    A little soap and water could have brightened up the place a bit and maybe kept it alive. Small businesses need to maintain their spaces better.

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    Marion Marino
    Marion Marino
    5 years ago

    O I am so sad! My friends and I loved this place. Loved the staff. I just feel really bad. There will never be another Old John’s. I hope the people who worked there can find other places as friendly.

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    David Thalberg
    David Thalberg
    5 years ago

    We lived in the Toulaine, right above. When our first daughter was born, I used to take her in there with me (as an infant) for breakfast, so my wife could get a little shut-eye.

    I loved the waitstaff – they were terrific. Such a shame.

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    Maggie Nunez
    Maggie Nunez
    5 years ago
    Reply to  David Thalberg

    I remember you!!! Hanna’s dad! (I hope I’m right!) your baby and all the other babies made my job as a waitress so much brighter, as I was in college to become an early childhood specialist teacher and development consultant. Loved everyone like family, and still do.

    – Maggie.

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    MonHu
    MonHu
    5 years ago

    Went there at least 10 times and the food was sub par. We’re not missing much.

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    Paul
    Paul
    5 years ago
    Reply to  MonHu

    And such small portions?

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    GaryGlitter
    GaryGlitter
    5 years ago

    Old John’s was a real locals-in-the-know neighborhood place that I loved going to. Full of genuine warmth, friendliness and character. I would dine there just by myself and the staff always treated me like a V.I.P. Whatever the owners and staff did to make strangers like me feel welcome, I offer my heartfelt praise and appreciation to them! Much Thanks, Old John’s, you did us right!

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    Mary Kaye
    Mary Kaye
    5 years ago

    I’ve continually walked by Uncle John’s in the last couple of months in hopes they’d have
    opened for takeout. One of the last homestyle
    neighborhood places, with a varied and affordable American menu, and staff who you
    came to know quickly,as a regular. Didn’t know they’d tried to open in July. Wish word had got out. Of course, I think much of their business came from pre-theatre or pre-concert diners, but alas they disappeared w/ the shutting down of the many live cultural
    venues in the area. You’re missed, Uncle John.

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    Otis
    Otis
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Mary Kaye

    It was Old John’s, not Uncle John’s.

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    JS
    JS
    5 years ago

    A huge loss for the community and so sorry for the staff.

    Business Insider 2011: “If Cheers was a luncheonette, it would have been Old John’s. The larger than life, heart-felt greeting you receive upon stepping through the front door draws you in like you’re the special visitor they’ve been waiting for all morning. Happily, the charm of Old John’s doesn’t stop there. The excellent customer service that continues throughout your meal, the spacious booths perfect for Sunday morning brunch lounging, and the extremely affordable prices are still just the icing on the cake…”

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    Meryl
    Meryl
    5 years ago

    My 89 year old neighbor, Gil, went there almost daily and they made him feel like family. Will be missed.

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    EdNY
    EdNY
    5 years ago

    Anyone remember the name of the restaurant in that space prior to 1998? It was “Center” something.

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    Benn Mitchell
    Benn Mitchell
    5 years ago
    Reply to  EdNY

    Really sad. We live directly across the street in Tower 67. For breakfast, some weekends we would dash across, my wife still in pajamas and only a jacket. (I was dressed.) I don’t remember the waitress’s name. She knew how my wife liked her pancakes and I, my eggs. We will really miss Old John’s

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    Maureen Cavanagh
    Maureen Cavanagh
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Benn Mitchell

    Kathy. She was the best

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    Bob S
    Bob S
    5 years ago

    Old John’s was my go to place. The day I retired, Kathy served me my last meal there and Manny picked up the the tab. A true gem of the UWS gone forever.

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    CarolUWS
    CarolUWS
    5 years ago

    This is so sad. We were there last Sunday and Kathy said they would be open outside through October. I guess they got the bad news that night. Such a loss for the staff and for the neighborhood. They have finally started working on the Mexican restaurant on the corner, but nothing can replace Old John’s.

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    Reynold
    Reynold
    5 years ago

    Not good food. We were served pre-fabricated pre-sliced turkey with a plastic separator still between the slices. They were not into cooking.

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    Rachel Glickman
    Rachel Glickman
    5 years ago

    I saw this sign last week and it broke my heart. I’m relatively new to the neighborhood (2-1/2 years) but I loved it there. Tried to donate, but the Go Fund Me is not taking new contributions.

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    lawlady
    lawlady
    5 years ago

    Old John’s has been a favorite forever. They provided a place that was comfortable, affordable, served a wide range of good food. The wait staff was like terrific. Monica was like family to me and my family and the guys were friendly. I really will miss this place.

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    LivableCity
    LivableCity
    5 years ago

    Damn! Not many places you love despite the food, but Old Johns was a gem for all the reasons listed. (And if you knew what to order, just great.) I’m only from the last 15 years, but it feels pretty irreplaceable. Good luck to the staff. Wish the go fund me could re-open. Heartfelt thanks and good wishes to all the staff.

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    Welcome to the new norm....
    Welcome to the new norm....
    5 years ago

    Also closing…..

    Regal movie theaters throughout the United States and Canada have officially close their doors for good …..AMC movie theaters are considering to close. Movies will now premier at 19.00 on in-demand from your home.

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