
By Gus Saltonstall
As we move past the middle of March, we grow ever closer to the much discussed Democratic primary this June for the New York-12 Congressional seat, in the race to replace longtime Rep. Jerrold Nadler.
While multiple candidates have dropped out of the race in recent weeks, including Jami Floyd and Alan Pardee, there are still 10 Democratic challengers vying for the open seat, along with seven Republican candidates, and three Independent candidates, as of March 16.
West Side Rag is looking to profile as many of these candidates as we can. Most recently, we spoke with Laura Dunn, a civil rights and victim rights attorney who is running for political office for her first time, and was a one-time Upper West Sider.
Our interview included questions about her background, time in the neighborhood, and her positions on President Donald Trump, immigration, housing, and why she chose to run.
The interview has been edited lightly for clarity.
WSR: Hi Laura, I wanted to start with why this was the right time and race to run for office for the first time?
Dunn: While I’ve not held legislative office before, I have done significant law and policy work as a civil rights attorney and victim advocate. I know I have the skillset for this job, having drafted and passed the Section 304 Violence Against Women Act in 2013. I did that by partnering with the Senate Judiciary team and a Democratic majority under then Speaker Pelosi. Once passing that law, I was able to work for the Department of Education’s Rule Making Committee, I also advised the Obama White House task force to protect students against sexual assault, which coordinated enforcement and other laws across federal agencies.
After all of that work I was able to spend time at the Senate Judiciary for the entire summer as a law clerk, and worked on pathways to citizenship, ending human trafficking, and addressing militarily sexual assault.
I’ve had extensive experience for this position and the reason I stepped up now is because I truly don’t know if we’ll have another free and fair election. It’s very clear to me that Donald Trump has not been properly addressed by our Congress. They’re letting him abuse his executive authority and put our country at risk with all of these military actions and wars overseas.
WSR: When it comes to President Trump, if elected, you would be joining into a working relationship with the Executive branch. How would you view that relationship? Would it be opposition, or moments of finding common ground?
Dunn: My very strong viewpoint on this is that we have to reclaim our moral center as a country. That requires us to stop working with Donald Trump and insist on his impeachment and removal. I saw that Trump is saying he’s not going to sign anything into law until the SAVE Act is passed. That’s what Congress should be doing, saying that none of the laws are going to get passed until we impeach Donald Trump. We have to fight fire with fire and I’ve seen too much cowardice within the Democratic Party. I don’t think we should cooperate with Donald Trump. As they say, “the emperor has no clothes,” and someone needs to stand up and say this guy is naked — stop following him.
WSR: Returning to your background, can you speak more on how your experience as a civil rights attorney sets you up to succeed as a member of Congress?
Dunn: In addition to Civil Rights, I work in an area called Victim’s Rights. That’s an evolving area of law, so oftentimes what I’ve had to do is first help pass a law and then turn around and enforce it. One example is New York’s Enough is Enough Law, which passed in 2015, and that was making uniform standards across colleges in New York City and state to have the same definition of sexual assault, along with the same definition of consent, and to have uniform procedures for disciplinary actions and reports. I’ve always been part of developing law and policy to then turn around and enforce it. From being in court so often, I can see where the holes and flaws of a law are. I’m able to see it from both ends, both the creation of law and policy, and then the enforcement of it. That’s what we need in a legislator.
WSR: Accountability on the federal level is clearly a cornerstone of your campaign. What does that accountability look like?
Dunn: I specifically want there to be Congressional term limits so that we don’t have apathetic individuals who stay in office decade after decade. I want to end insider trading with Congress members. Right now members are able to trade with insider information. It’s not allowed on Wall Street, but it’s allowed on Capitol Hill? Legislators become millionaires in office now and they become out of touch with working people. I think that’s why we have an affordability crisis in this country. We also need Congress to establish ethical standards for the Supreme Court. I’m a lawyer. I have ethical standards, but the top of my profession does not. We need to investigate justices because there are very clear signs of political corruption with a few of them. I’m running not just because we urgently need someone to stand up to Donald Trump, but because this entire system has become corrupt. People have lost faith in the government and the only way to fix that is to put in accountability measures.
WSR: Why do you think accountability resonates so much with voters?
Dunn: Because we’re all fed up. We’re so tired of sending people to Congress who promise everything and do nothing. It comes down to the party system. I think the MAGA party that empowered Trump is just the other side of the coin with the Democratic party that is serving corporations and not the people. We are seeing a system that is corrupt and broken, and we’re tired of it.
WSR: How would look to balance your work in Washington D.C. on global issues with keeping up with local issues within District 12?
Dunn: Part of why people serving on the Hill lose touch with their community is because they don’t come home enough. They stay in D.C., which is a bubble, and I know because I’ve lived there before. I live and work in District 12, I have a law firm here, I have a home here, and my dog lives here with me.
I’m going to be around in the community and can keep that commitment. There’s no place I’d rather be. Too often part of why politicians go way too far into the international realm is because of their own future ambitions. Mayor Mamdani has given the best example that while we have to talk about the whole world, since it’s part of our duties, it doesn’t mean he’s decided to leave the city. He is going to prioritize being here day in and day out, and there are going to be times, like when all the violence was happening in Minneapolis, I wanted to go visit, but it felt more important to be here with the people that are going to be voting for me. I have time and time again chosen to be in the city with my community.
WSR: One of those national issues that has an affect on New York City is immigration. What would you look to do on the immigration front if elected?
Dunn: Everyone keeps doing the talking point of we should defund ICE, but then they don’t seem to say much more. We need to review Customs and Border Patrol’s jurisdiction; right now it’s 100 miles, and that why it’s able to abuse citizens and residents in places like New York City. That should be limited down to 10 miles. With ICE itself, I do believe it’s a fully corrupt organization that has intentionally recruited people involved in January 6, and other anti-American and [anti-]constitutional efforts, so I do think it needs to be reformed. Whatever we put in place must be based in a human rights model, where we honor that everyone has rights and deserves to be treated with dignity and respect.
WSR: Affordability is another one of those driving topics within the campaign. How would you look to improve affordability in District 12, especially as related to housing?
Dunn: I know that NYCHA housing is consistently being funded less and less, and it’s resulting in really horrific conditions where repairs aren’t happening or entire housing complexes are being pushed to demolition, including the Chelsea Elliot Housing. It’s obvious we need pretty significant reform in this area.
What I’ve proposed is a one-to-one match for every dollar that New York puts into this housing, I want the federal government to match it. What’s nice about that approach is that it allows the local to drive the federal because it is hard for people in NY-12 to lobby the Hill and Congress. Whereas most people in NY-12 are pretty civically engaged, and know how to find the mayor. So, I really want to tie local funding to federal funding.
We also know that rent-controlled units, if they’re rehabilitated, they can’t charge more rent, so lots of landlords are choosing to leave them unoccupied. We have to allow people to update their units to have a reasonable assessment of the values that they can keep renting them, but rents are getting out of control because of the artificial shortage of stock being created.
WSR: And would your first bill relate to one of these issues we’ve spoken about?
Dunn: There are so many fires that need to be put out immediately. My first action, though, would be trying to work toward the impeachment of Donald Trump. That is the priority on Day 1. It is not just the disruption that is happening to the United States with his chaotic approach, it’s the fact that the entire world is losing faith in our country.
WSR: Focusing on the local. Do you or have you lived on the Upper West Side?
Dunn: I lived on West 71st Street and Amsterdam for four years. My dog was raised on off-leash hours in Central Park. I very much love the Upper West Side. I go to one of the local farmer markets every Sunday with my dog and it’s the community I feel the closest too.
WSR: Any favorite spots in the neighborhood?
Dunn: I’m in Central Park all of the time. I walk up from Hell’s Kitchen twice a week with my dog. There’s no place like it. My goal is to get lost in the park, which is becoming harder and harder as I continue to map it. I really like TAP for the smoothies.
Truly, why I like the Upper West Side so much is the dog culture. I have met so many neighbors from having a dog, and everybody is so lovely. I’ll give an example, I got shingles two summers ago and I was very stressed selling a part of my law office. A neighbor who knew me from the dog park was texting me to meet up, and I said ‘I can’t go, I have shingles’ and she said, ‘do you want me to buy you groceries and bring them to you?’ That to me is the Upper West Side in a nutshell. People who care and are neighborly, and bond with you over something as simple as your love for dogs.
WSR: Finally, let’s say someone walks up to you on the street and says, ‘All I know about the District 12 race is that there are a ton of candidates. In 30 seconds, what makes you stand out from the rest of the field and why should I vote for you’? What do you say?
Dunn: I’m the only candidate who drafted and passed federal laws. I know what it’s like to work on the Hill. I’m a sexual assault survivor who got involved in politics, not because I wanted to, but because I had to. The laws weren’t serving survivors, justice was not coming, so I stepped up to lead. That matters because this is personal, this isn’t just a career goal, I know what it’s like to need an institution to care about you and for it to fail. And, because of that life experience, I look at every single issue that is harming Americans with a deep connection to the pain that they are feeling and a deep drive to make it better for all of them.
You can find out more about Dunn’s campaign on her candidate website — HERE.
Read More:
- A WSR Conversation With Candidate Nina Schwalbe in the Race to Represent the UWS in Congress
- Meet the UES Candidate Running to Represent Both the UES and UWS in Congress
- Meet Karen Ortiz, an Independent Candidate Running to Represent the UWS in Congress
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Ugh “impeachment and removal.” How much more of our tax payer dollars and time do we really need to spend on impeachments that are symbolic only and just wind up costing taxpayer dollars and limiting the actual work of congress? This nonsense is what got him elected in the first place. She has no real plan other than “resistance.” Bah. NEXT!
If all you got from this interview was that one thing, then you obviously don’t read too good. She talks about several other issues, all of which are important. You may want to read it again – and don’t stop just because you see her talking about impeaching Drumpf – which I agree is a waste of time and money.
She has more to say, more issues to discuss, and she is one smart, engaged and no-B.S. woman.
Based on the comments, there seems to be a consensus that the constant foot stomping about impeaching Trump is, in fact, BS
It’s truly amazing how every single candidate in this series is all about Trump. All the time..I guess that we have no salient problems in this district. On another note. When it comes to affordability. How come nobody wants to try cutting taxes for the middle class person who trudges to work every day. And then back home.
As with your pal Eric Anderson, if all you got from this interview was that single thing, then you don’t read too good. She talks about a great deal more than that. But you simply stopped when you saw that one thing. Sad.
Because the UWS is full of trust funders and nepo-babies. Few residents are trudging to work and back!
This article describes the typical UWS resident: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-democrats-white-liberal-problem/?utm_campaign=21086878-DIGITAL_NLR%20AEI%20Today&utm_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-_gbL3RRN97WLpqHq2pZD6_rusLhCMyC6N8VHAiFCTqH5pWGBj7ZcRXRxt-L8ekl-uEbH_camsf6iyH258F_xV9R7IOlA&_hsmi=408730056&utm_content=408730056&utm_source=hs_email
The AEI is not a credible source.
I don’t think that there is a politician, especially on the leftist democrat side, that considers cutting spending over creating reasons to spend more money.
the left seems to all share in their hatred of trump, they believe that removing him will solve all the ills of society. all they have is hatred and spend more money.
#massive fail.
I don’t think spending is the issue here. Culture is. I don’t think Democrats believe that merely removing him will solve all the ills of society, rather that permanent one party rule by activist Dems with no dissent will solve all of societies ills.
Laura Dunn is great! Looking forward to voting for her!
And whom are you going to vote for in the general election?
I will write in her name for the general if she doesn’t win!
And if the polling is close between the Democratic Party nominee and the Republican candidate? (I know it’s unlikely.)
Another one. The obsession with Trump is wild to me. It appears the WSR tried to forcibly steer this interview back to more local issues at one point, so credit to them for trying. It’s so tiresome and all the same. The TV ads all sound the same. The people I overhear discussing politics in the neighborhood all sound the same. Aren’t you the side who says diversity is our strength? I hear zero diversity of thought
How misguided and lame to run on the basis of not working with my president. Also what is wrong with the SAVE Act? Etc.
The Save Act is an attempt to address a statistically insignificant problem, one for which there are already effective laws and processes to safeguard (https://bipartisanpolicy.org/article/four-things-to-know-about-noncitizen-voting/).
At the same time, it introduces new problems FAR outweighing the problem it claims to address (https://bipartisanpolicy.org/article/five-things-to-know-about-the-save-act/).
She makes some interesting points but I wish candidates would stop campaigning on impeach Trump. He has been impeached already and look what happened? I do believe in term
limits and he too shall pass. We need a congress that can pass laws for the future.
I agree with your overall drift, but I am not convinced that Trump doesn’t want to game or change the system so he can have a third term or more.
He’s going to leave when his term is up.
How do you know this?
Agree, the 3rd term fear mongering is just strange. Sure he might be a kingmaker behind the scenes, but he’s going to retire down to mar a lago and be a grandfather
What’s strange about it? Trump himself has mentioned a third term several times.
And Biden mentioned a second term several times, but alas…
Term limits are good in theory, but in practice what happens is that the same special interest groups “control” certain seats and who is in them even if faces change every several years.
“ That requires us to stop working with Donald Trump and insist on his impeachment and removal.”. Cool. So just another goose-stepping, woke useful idiot. They’re all reading from the same set of talking points they were handed. Embarrassing.
She lost my vote when she heaped praise on Mamdani.
He’s being compared to Lyndon B. Johnson for his grit and ability to navigate turbulent political waters and still stick to his priorities. I think he’s doing a great job and will turn out to be one of the more historic democrats that has held an office in quite some time.
Claire, please tell us your favorite three things about LBJ.
Who is comparing him to LBJ? And does it bother you even a little that we have two virulent antisemites residing in Gracie Mansion
Mamdani has been in office for less than 100 days, LBJ for over 5 years, who with a sane mind is even comparing these 2?
Mamdani hasn’t even been in office for three months and he’s being compared to Lyndon Johnson?
Name one single person besides yourself who compares him to LBJ.
Maybe they should start carving Mamdani’s head onto Mt Rushmore.
LBJ was also racist and vulgar too but still got stuff done that JFK could not.
She was out stumping in the frigid air last week. Her smile and enthusiasm warmed my cockles. I love her advocacy for women. She’s got my vote!
Another clone.
Dunn is one smart, savvy and no-B.S. woman! And no, she does not ONLY talk about Drumpf and potential impeachment – which I agree would be a waste of time and money. She has A LOT more to say, but it seems that some people here read the first paragraph – and then simply stopped reading.
Dunn didn’t get to decide what order the questions were asked, it was WSR that did. And they decided to ask that one first. But that is not the ONLY question they asked, nor the only issue Dunn addresses here.
It is sad that some people have the attention span of a gnat, or simply can’t read past the first question.
Although I am currently planning to vote for Lasher, if I were to vote for someone else, it would absolutely be Laura Dunn. In fact, if there were ranked choice voting, she would unquestionably be my #2.
But Alex Bores is way hotter! He has my vote on that alone!
Good grief.
OK, so Trump gets impeached and removed. Then we have President Vance. Will she work with him?
And he’s not going to be impeached and removed. So basically she has nothing to offer.
It’s like a college student with a B average talking about what they plan to focus on at Harvard Medical School. That kid’s not getting into Harvard, so what other plans do they have?
Is there no one running with imagination?
This is one of the best analogies I’ve read
Laura Dunn is not your typical out of state transplant. She does her best to really meet people where they are at and is not someone who moved to NYC to build her career at the expense of those who live here longer than her or long term.
And?
Too many people move here from out of state to just build their careers and make themselves famous.
And so that is the basis for a vote?
Are we that vapid?
Yes that is a real problem in politics. Many people get into politics for the wrong reasons. There are people in Albany who literally say, what can I say today that will make me famous?
Well, the emperor with no clothes just arrested one illegitimate dictator (Venezuela) flooding the entire continent with drugs, eliminated another illegitimate bunch of lunatics murdering thousands of young people, and raping women and men in secret police prisons (Iran), and is about to liberate Cuba from the scourge of communism, but Ms. Laura Dunn, the victims advocate, the civil and human rights attorney, thinks he needs to be impeached to restore our moral center.
Yeah, go walk your dog and leave this to the adults.
Sadly many of my fellow Democrats only care about victims when they fall into the official “oppressed/oppressor” narrative. This is why we hear crickets on victims of violent and oppressive regimes that you mention. They can’t do the moral math when the oppressors are Muslim or black/brown people.
Democrats only care about people when it is politically beneficial for them.
I think that is also true of many Republicans. Let’s not pretend that one side is morally superior. Tribalism breeds amorality.
It may be true, but what are UWS leaders doing to make things better, call out the other side to hide their own faults?
What a breath of fresh air this woman is. She has my vote.
Yawn… “civil rights attorney”, “victims advocate”, “anti trump”, etc. Why is our neighborhood aways attracting all these same social justice warriors?
If you want to grow your career and get to the top as a millennial or younger, you have to live in Manhattan or “cool” Brooklyn. Nowhere else offers career growth opportunities for young, ambitious people who have graduate degrees.
Sending a singlevcat lady for Vance?
You will not select your representative. The machine will.
People write as if impeaching Trump has no real impact on people’s lives but is some empty gesture. Not true! I remember the last two impeachments made for fascinating television and sparked interesting conversations amongst me and my peers and we were forever changed by it. I believe a third and/or fourth impeachment can help improve the viewing experience on MSNBC, which is dominated by Iran coverage. I long for a good impeachment segment with Rachel Maddow. And I will one day feel happy again. Talk about improving peoples lives – this can do it.
Rachel Maddow has directly improved many a life, about as many as Chuck Schumer. Mainly (only) their own.