
UPDATE: Monday, March 18 at 6:10 p.m: Following West Side Rag’s publication Tuesday morning of Jeff French Segall’s photos of two climbers on top of The El Dorado towers, management at the famous Upper West Side building reacted in an unexpected way.
Residents at the El Dorado, located at 300 Central Park West, received a message, which was shared with the Rag, claiming that the photos were fake.
“Upon receiving reports about the photos, the authorities initiated an investigation,” the message read. “After examination, the police believe that the photos in question are, in fact, manipulated and classified as deep fakes.”
However, on Monday afternoon, El Dorado building management began walking that back.
“Our statement that the photos were fake was based on the police telling our door staff Monday night that it was likely a hoax and we concluded, perhaps prematurely, that the photos were fake,” Mark Shonberger, president of the El Dorado board, told West Side Rag via text message. “Our main concern right now is to continue investigating and to work with the police to determine the facts.”
Shonberger emphasized that the claim the photos were fake was based on information given by police on Monday night.
The Rag confirmed with an NYPD spokesperson that officers were called to The El Dorado on Monday night for a “possible dangerous condition.” But a source familiar with the situation said that police visited the address only briefly and did not search the building.
Shonberger also asked the Rag for the contact information for Segall in the hopes of seeing more of the photos to both get a better understanding of what happened and to show police.
Segall, 82, who lives on West 90th Street less than 1,000 feet from the El Dorado and sent West Side Rag more than 100 photos of the two climbers on top of the Upper West Side building, reiterated to the Rag repeatedly that the photos were genuine. Segall said the only changes he made included a standard brightening of the images and touching up of the background of the photos to make them more clear.
Segall told the New York Post, which also wrote Tuesday about the stunning photos: “It’s insulting … The fact that my veracity, my honesty is being called into question is disturbing.”
The Post said that it independently verified Segall’s photos before publishing them.
The Rag consulted two experts on verification and misinformation, both of whom noted that current tools for detecting AI-generated images are not 100 percent reliable. But Cornell University professor Claire Wardle, who has done extensive research on verification techniques, noted (after examining some of the raw photos taken by Segall) that “there is a lot of metadata about time taken and other metadata that shows me this isn’t a deepfake.”
Nor are there obvious signs of photoshopping, like strange metadata or shadows that don’t match the time of the photo – though there’s no single definitive tool for determining when an image has been photoshopped.
West Side Rag will update this story when we learn more or if there is new information from the El Dorado.
Original Story
By Gus Saltonstall
A little before 7 p.m. on Monday night Upper West Sider Jeff French Segall looked up in astonishment.
Two young men were climbing the towers of The El Dorado building on Central Park West between 90th and 91st streets. The climbers had somehow reached the roof level of the nearly century-old building, which has twin 12-story towers on top of a 17-story base.
Upon reaching the roof, the pair then climbed to the tip top of both buildings and proceeded to take out what looked like a selfie stick, before photographing themselves for roughly 20 minutes.
The Upper West Side building is a New York City landmark, and the two towers are each nearly 400 feet tall, according to real estate listings.
Segall, a semi-professional photographer and contributor to West Side Rag, captured the moment in a series of stunning shots.
Here’s how Segall described the event unfolding before him.
“I had just taken an iPhone pano view of the El Dorado and the surrounding area from our 27th floor livingroom window, when my wife exclaimed, ‘Unbelievable, Jeff, look out the window. That’s a man!'” Segall told the Rag. “I looked up and saw, first, one man at the very summit of the south tower attempting to stand erect, and another man, reclining just below the top of the north tower, seeming to rest for a moment after his arduous climb. I ran for my cameras, fired off a series of shots with a low power zoom and then switched to my strongest zoom (150-600mm) for the remainder of the over 100 images.”



It seems unlikely that the El Dorado would have allowed something like this, and West Side Rag reached out to the Upper West Side building for more information about the situation. We will update this story if we hear back.
For those who are unfamiliar, this is what the El Dorado building looks like in it entirety.

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Eiyahhhhhhh!
That’s nice.
Why is it that everything is “iconic” these days?
Thank you for saying it! It’s nuts the way everyone (OK, not everyone, but it seems like everyone) uses it for anything at all these days.
That observation about the paucity of our vocabularies is right on the money. Remember when everything was “awesome?” Now, it’s awesome, iconic and epic. (And stale, trite and tiresome.)
The overuse, and usually misuse, of “iconic” could drive me up the walls of the famous, classic, familiar, renowned, and beloved El Dorado.
Sorry. Iconic is the right word in this particular case. Much better than your choices.
Those choices may not be ideal, but if the El Dorado is iconic, so are eight or so other buildings on Central Park West. So you have 9 or so “iconic” buildings in about a 20-block stretch. So what does that even mean? It means the word “icon” means nothing.
These buildings are notable, great, neighborhood treasures, Manhattan landmarks, and so on. The fact that they’re beloved and highly recognizable and make us proud to live here doesn’t make them icons.
Very overused word but this is an iconic building 😊
good question because not much is ‘iconic’, in real life.
further, i think of this accomplishment as ‘stunning’ (but the bar is high; think of Phillipe Petit); the photographs, not so much.
There may eventually be a YouTube video of this made by the intrepid adventurers.
YouTube has videos of adventurers climbing to the top of the supertalls, as they were still under construction, as well as to the tops of various iconic city skyscrapers. At the peaks, they film panoramic videos.
This expedition is perhaps another in that series.
If you ever wondered what the city looks like from the top of the El Dorado towers, you may soon have your chance.
If you want a pre-selfie memoir of the climb, try here, about some 2008 hijinks that took a few partiers up to the same heights: https://www.untappedcities.com/scaling-the-top-of-the-eldorado-apartments-on-central-park-west/
I hope to find it! These guys looked completely fearless as they posed, and took selfies.
The one is my friend! I posted a comment about where to find some of his other work.
Fantastic!
Humans: just smart enough to justify their most self-aggrandizing and nonsensical impulses.
For ‘humans’ substitute ‘young males’ and you’re absolutely correct.
WOW !! That’s astonishing!! Ha-ha!
Art is not dead!! .. Sanity? Another question!!
And meanwhile the building.., drenched in scaffolding! Of course!
What’s going on in this city of ours ?!
Backlog due to COVID, people only went out for necessities. Add on the workers lost who caught COVID and did not survive or could no longer work. One factor Landlords are behind on rental payments. They up the rent to recoup losses, making it less affordable. Retail outlets closed due to higher rents and the increase in online shopping. The baby boomers retiring and relocating.
I see more retirees in the new buildings along Broadway. Add in the extremities in weather (everywhere) and politicians (everywhere).
Very Cool. I would not have the nerve to do it
These candidates for the Darwin Award of the Year likely live in the building, or how else would they evade all the doormen at that building?
False. Urban explorers typically scout out their locations and are able evade most security in the process.
Just like the subway surfers.
Beautiful photos.
Reaching new heights.
Obviously, the guy on the scaffolded building cheated.
I’m sure they’re thrilled that the Rag published these photos. Just more publicity for them.
Did they not have any climbing equipment on up there?! Crazy!!
Looks as if there are maintenance ladders almost all the way up in one place or another. Still….whew. Hope it was, ummm, spectacular but harmless? That everyone made it down safe and the place doesn’t become an attractive nuisance? Thanks for the piece and the photos.
Sorry, am I the only one who thinks this is reckless and just plain stupid?
it’s a young male thing
No, not at all.
yup.
Those guys definitely don’t suffer from vertigo, or timidity. And kudos to the photographer, Jeff Segall, who not only caught this stunt on camera, but did do spectacularly.
JJ French a man of many talents
Not JJFrench. His older brother, Jeff
not jjfrench
Great publicity for two reckless fools. Now stay tuned for more of the same…
The Eldorado sent an announcement to shareholders saying the police investigated and believe these images were digitally altered deep fakes.
I saw the men on the top of the El Dorado that night when I was heading to Trader Joe’s on 93rd and Columbus. These are absolutely real photos. Dozens of people inside and outside of TJ’s saw the men on the towers. It was an incredible sight.
Shush, reality is what the NYPD says.
How did we establish that they were men?
The one gentleman who you see reclining is my one buddy! He is a free climber from Pittsburgh and travels all over the states doing these incredible photo shoots! His instagram is @seikers_official
he’s an awesome dude and did some photo shoots for me. He hasn’t posted these pictures on his instagram yet, but he has made a very cool Tiktok and Snapchat video of them!
Thank you Zak!! Your friend is a fearless climber!! I look forward to seeing his pictures!! This also puts a complete end to those who would say Jeff’s photos were “fake”. I will have another message to be sent to you.
If someone had time to photograph them I hope that person had time to call 911. What if one of those people had fallen or jumped?
Did the cops call them fake because they just didn’t feel like doing any investigating?
“Deepfakes don’t just make things look real. They also provide a way to dismiss real things as fake.”
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/11/she-was-accused-of-faking-an-incriminating-video-of-teenage-cheerleaders-she-was-arrested-outcast-and-condemned-the-problem-nothing-was-fake-after-all
I just don’t understand why it’s billed as some sort of accomplishment when there are ladders every where leading up to both spires. Who cares? Two guys on the roof with selfie-sticks. They definitely didn’t scale the building.
Their shoes are a dead giveaway.
The headline should really be: Two guys climb ladders on a roof.
Lighten up Francis.
I’m sure the building very much wants to believe this was a deepfake 🙂
I am losing my mind over the update you posted! Fake photos? Please! What’s more likely…that an 82 year old lifelong NYC’er photography hobbyist learned photoshop and lightbox to deliberately deceive the public for fame and potentially profit, OR two morons with selfie sticks engaged in an illegal and highly dangerous act so they could post pics and videos on their social media for engagement farming and financial gain?
The plot thickens…
Tell me something I didn’t already know. Police lie all. the. time.
If I were a board member of this building I’d go after the management company for being so incompetent in handling this situation. They should be extremely grateful to Jeff French Seagall for being such an outstanding and alert citizen in addition to being an excellent photographer. Clearly this should be a wake up call regarding all security/scaffolding matters.
If in fact the Eldorado’s accusation that the photos were “deep fakes” is false, (as it seems to be), the responsible parties at the Eldorado would likely have engaged in libel against both the WSR and photographer Segall . This civil offense occurs when a false accusation is made, is then “published” by transmitting it to a third party in writing, and the accusation damages the reputation, character or integrity of that person. If I were that person , company or both at the Eldorado, I would ASAP issue a retraction and apology by letter to the WSR and Mr. Seagal, with a copy to all the shareholders at the El Dorado.
That’s some high tech analysis by the NYPD, future Elon employees I posit.
I’m sure no one noticed because half the owners dont seem to live there most of the time. I live around the corner and I always notice mostly dark apartments