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    Trump Declared President; Harris Wins New York; Nadler, Hoylman-Sigal Reelected: Election Results 2024

    November 5, 2024 | 9:08 PM - Updated on November 8, 2024 | 6:35 PM
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    Congressman Jerry Nadler and Vice President Kamala Harris. Photo 1: U.S. House Office of Photography. Photo 2: Vice Presidential Portrait/Public Domain.

    By Gus Saltonstall

    Donald Trump was elected the 47th President of the United States early Wednesday morning, according to multiple publications, including the New York Times.

    As of 8 a.m. on Wednesday, Trump had secured 277 Electoral College votes, seven more than the 270 needed to be named president. He is also on course to win the popular vote, which would make him the first Republican since 2004 to do so.

    Polls officially closed in New York at 9 p.m. on Tuesday.

    Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democratic candidate for President of the United States, was declared the winner for New York at 9 p.m., according to AP News and the New York Times. The victory for Harris in New York means she secured the state’s 29 electoral votes.

    The presidential race in New York and New York City was historically close, though.

    Here are the results in New York for the presidential race as of Wednesday morning, which include 89 percent of the total expected votes, according to the New York Times.

    • Harris: 55 percent (4,151,877 votes)
    • Trump: 44 percent (3,338,581 votes)

    It is the first time in 20 years in that the margin of victory for the Democratic presidential candidate in New York will be less than 15 points. President Joe Biden won New York in 2020 by 23 percentage points.

    New York City results also reflected some shift toward conservatism. With 97 percent of the scanners reported in New York City as of Wednesday morning, Trump secured 30 percent of the vote in the five boroughs, which is by far the most he’s won in his three elections. When compared to 2020, he saw a 35 percent boost in the number of votes received in the Bronx, a 20 percent increase in Manhattan, and a 16.5 percent jump in his hometown borough of Queens.

    In total, Harris won 67 percent of New York City’s votes, compared to the 75 percent that Joe Biden won four years ago, according to preliminary results.

    Elsewhere on the New York City ballot, propositions one through five passed, but number six did not. You can read the details on those — HERE.

    In more local races, Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler was declared the winner around 9:10 p.m. on Tuesday night in his reelection bid for New York’s 12th District against Republican challenger Mike Zumbluskas, according to NY1 and the Washington Post.

    Here are the voting results for Nadler as of Wednesday morning, which reflect 95 percent of the expected votes, according to NY1:

    • Nadler: 80 percent (235,856 votes)
    • Zumbluskas: 19 percent (57,403 votes)

    The victory gives Nadler his 18th term in Congress.

    In the race for U.S. Senate, incumbent Kirsten Gillibrand defeated Republican challenger Michael Sapraicone with a voting breakdown of 58 percent to 41 percent, according to NY1.

    State Senator Brad Hoylman-Sigal also defeated Republican candidate Emily Yuexin Miller in the 47th District. The State Senate’s 47th District includes the entirety of the Upper West Side from West 59th to 102nd streets.

    Hoylman was declared the winner around 9:25 p.m. with 84 percent of the vote, according to NY1.

    In other results, Democratic candidate Micah Lasher is now officially the Assemblymember for the 69th District, which stretches from West 80th to 125th streets, after running uncontested. Incumbent Assemblymember Linda Rosenthal, who represents the 67th District, which includes Hell’s Kitchen and the Upper West Side from West 59th up through certain avenues of 93rd streets, was also uncontested in her reelection bid.

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    116 Comments
    Number 47
    Number 47
    1 year ago

    Just wanted to be the very person to say, congratulations Donald Trump on becoming the 47th President of the United States. We will not go back to Biden-Harris era policies that hurt our beloved city, and country.

    I look forward to the days ahead

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    Vagabond
    Vagabond
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Number 47

    Hear hear! Let’s fix the governor and mayoral offices next!

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    josh d
    josh d
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Number 47

    good to read comments like this! just giving headaches and heart attacks across our ultra progressive bohemian UWS makes me so happy!

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    Sam
    Sam
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Number 47

    You do realize he blocked all funding for New York, blocked all airport and infrastructure renewal, blocked he gateway tunnel, blocked the 911 Insurance fund, and removed the SALT deductions that zoomed taxes on every who owns a home in New York State.

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    Patricia
    Patricia
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sam

    As much as I loved my SALT deduction, he did have a point in eliminating the deduction which basically financed the high cost of living in high tax states at the cost of states with lower taxes.

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    josh d
    josh d
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sam

    I guess only you are smart and the rest of us who voted trump are just stupid and uneducated people, right? Keep not changing, you never learn your lessons.

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    UWS Dad
    UWS Dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  josh d

    Owning the libs is not a policy framework! Trump is inheriting a booming economy, hopefully he doesn’t crash it with tariffs

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    josh d
    josh d
    1 year ago
    Reply to  UWS Dad

    yet sometimes it is refreshing to see liberals biting the dust, always hoping it would make them a bit more humble and openminded. Yet, they never seem to learn or change.

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    Grayson
    Grayson
    1 year ago
    Reply to  josh d

    The fact that your comments aren’t about a potential new policy framework but instead convey your pleasure at “giving headaches and heart attacks” and getting to see other people “bite the dust” — you really don’t get it, do you? This is what’s so disturbing about the society that Maga people are creating.

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    UWS Dad
    UWS Dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  josh d

    Its all fun and games until you actually have to run the country… best of luck

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    josh d
    josh d
    1 year ago
    Reply to  UWS Dad

    But I don’t run it and you don’t run it either, so?

    Last edited 1 year ago by josh d
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    UWS Dad
    UWS Dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  josh d

    Obviously not literally you. You as in the broader MAGA political movement which you (literally you this time) seem to be (?) cheerleading.

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    Sam Katz
    Sam Katz
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Number 47

    “We will not go back?” Isn’t his campaign slogan all about “going back?” To each his own, but I certainly will not congratulate a three times wife cheating cad, and a -grabbing, twice impeached, 34 times convicted felon whose charity was shuttered for fraud, who had to pay $25 million for the fraud that was Trump University, and who tried to overthrow the government and democracy on January 6, and all because his frail ego was hurt by losing the previous election. I am not going to congratulate someone who insulted me multiple times per day for eight years in hideous, rude, nasty, sexist, misogynistic social media posts and speeches. He should be in prison as far as I’m concerned.

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    Ella
    Ella
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sam Katz

    His reelection will save America from the Authoritarian Left. The Authoritarian Left believes the state should control every aspect of our lives. They believe parents should have no say in how their children are raised or what they are taught in school. They believe the state can ban and censor anyone who criticizes the government, or the prevailing left wing ideology, or hurts your feelings. They believe they can remove their political opponents from the ballot, and arrest and imprison them on laughable charges. That’s what the Left believes, and I’m glad the voters of America rejected it.

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    Andrea
    Andrea
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ella

    Wrong!!!!! HE wants to control! He wants to control even how many children we have! There’s nothing laughable about being charged as a rapist. There’s nothing laughable about steealing money, tricking banks, having 6 bankruptcies that leave those who worked for him holding the bag. What’s funny about that? No one is telling anyone about how to raise their children except those who want to insist their religion is a part of school curriculum. And those same people want the say in having AK47s, even if they or their dependents who can use that weapon of war, are mentally ill. The bullets will end any dispute on how that child is raised. It won’t be. It will be buried.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ella

    America prefers neo-Bonapartist patrimonialism, you suppose?

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    Andie
    Andie
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    As opposed to an Authoritarian Leftist? Well, yes. In fact, they just voted that way.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sam Katz

    To mention only an infinitesimal few of his encyclopedia of demerits!
    Alas, DJ seems to have achieved his primary goal: the get-out-of-jail-free card.

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    OPOE
    OPOE
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Number 47

    As do I.

    It is a new dawn in America.

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    Liz
    Liz
    1 year ago
    Reply to  OPOE

    More like a SUNSET!

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    OPOE
    OPOE
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Liz

    We did set the clocks back on Sunday morning.

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    brave in nyc
    brave in nyc
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Liz

    Lovely sunset

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    Lisa
    Lisa
    1 year ago
    Reply to  OPOE

    OPOE, I have always appreciated your comments. I hope I am pleasantly surprised by the changes Trump has in store.

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    Leah
    Leah
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Lisa

    Can you share some specifics? Or is this just the talk track?

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    Ari
    Ari
    1 year ago

    The cost of passing over PA governor Shapiro because he’s pro-Israel and a Jew , to appease the far-left wing of the party, cost us this damn election. Nice move.

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    UWSer
    UWSer
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ari

    This is simply wrong, for several reasons:

    1) Shapiro may have helped a bit with voters in PA but he may not have delivered the state. VP picks don’t always translate to a win in their home state.

    2) As of the time I’m writing this comment, Harris is trailing by 48 electoral votes. Pennsylvania has 19 votes. She has lost in other places that were considered swing states like Georgia, Wisconsin, and Michigan. She would still lose even with PA’s 19 votes.

    3) Shapiro is pro-Israel and Jewish; these are facts. These are liabilities less with far-left voters and more with the large Arab-American population in the aforementioned Midwestern swing states like Michigan. Regardless of how you feel about Israel and Palestine, it is a fact that Shapiro would poll very poorly among many of those voters.

    4) Anti-semitism is high and Shapiro is Jewish. To be clear, I hate that this is a liability but the reality is that it is one, similar to Harris being a) a woman b) of color. If a woman of color was going to be at the top of the ticket, the VP was going to have to be a white Christian male. Again, I don’t like this at all, but it is the reality of the country we live in.

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    Kayson212
    Kayson212
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ari

    Shapiro as VP candidate would have helped in Pennsylvania, but Harris’ losses in swing state after swing state speak to a bigger problem with the Democrats. This is a real wake-up call.

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    good humor
    good humor
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ari

    I am sincerely baffled as to how people can vote for a party in which being a Jew means being passed over, and that’s ok enough to continue voting for them.

    Maybe people should rethink their loyalty on this?

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    Ethan
    Ethan
    1 year ago
    Reply to  good humor

    But Jews invented “passover”

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    Murray
    Murray
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ari

    I tend to somewhat agree with you.

    Shapiro is tough, smart and charismatic. He’s also successful and popular in a state that’s actually very Republican outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. She would likely have won Pennsylvania with him on the ticket and he probably would have appealed to more moderate voters across the country.

    Shapiro will definitely be a leading contender in 2028.

    Harris’ choice to pick Walz was a mistake. He excited hardly anyone and for all his alleged folksy charm she made little use of him. He also performed poorly in his debate vs Vance.

    I want to add that while Harris won by a wide margin in NYC Trump performed much better than expected. Maybe NYC is not as liberal and progressive as we have all been taught to believe.

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    Eugene Nickerson
    Eugene Nickerson
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Murray

    Nothing would have helped Harris win other than Biden keeping the remain in Mexico policy. Yes I think immigration is a good thing and beneficial for America, but we also have to realize that we live in the NY Post’s version of the Truman Show and work from there.

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    UWS Dad
    UWS Dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Eugene Nickerson

    We might be in agreement for once

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    Eugene Nickerson
    Eugene Nickerson
    1 year ago
    Reply to  UWS Dad

    To get the other more important things done, maybe losing the urbanism might help. As a registered Democrat, if I were running for office, I would push back hard on the anti car stuff to show that I do not want to fundamentally change the way people live and American culture, while giving me cover to protect other more important rights

    Last edited 1 year ago by Eugene Nickerson
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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Eugene Nickerson

    Which anti-car stuff would this be?

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    Eugene Nickerson
    Eugene Nickerson
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    It has been talked about ad nauseum on this site. But what I will say is this, the same guy funding Open Plans and Transportation Alternatives is also the same guy funding RFK Jr. and contributed to him having a role in the Trump white house.

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    Bill WIlliams
    Bill WIlliams
    1 year ago

    $5 Billion on migrants in 2024 and estimates of $12 Billion in 2025 and yet NYC votes for not only Harris but Nadler and Sigal. We will then get to read all the comments by readers of the Rag about rising crime, unsafe streets, homelessness, rising costs and the general deterioration of the city and services and wondering why?

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    Katherine
    Katherine
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Bill WIlliams

    But how is Trump specifically supposed to alleviate all of that?

    That’s the missing piece no one seems to address. His first term in office did nothing except pass a hugely expensive tax cut for the wealthy and corporations. He did not improve anyone’s quality of life, or crime rates, or homelessness, or cost of living.

    All he had (has) is vague soundbites. People fell for it again.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Katherine

    Ah, but he does have concepts of a plan for healthcare. Or was it plans for a concept…? Oh, well, the fine details can be worked out once Social Security and Medicare and the ACA have been dumped, along with a score of other inessentials.

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    Sam Katz
    Sam Katz
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Bill WIlliams

    Yes, please blame the desperately poor for your problems! Trump had four years to solve immigration. Not only didn’t he do anything he said he would do, but Mexico paid for nothing, and when the chance arose for meaningful reform, he squashed it. Trump has NO plans to stop scapegoating the poor and needy. He needs a boogeyman and they are his boogeymen. Meanwhile, he will give more tax breaks to the 1% — the rich will get richer and the poor, much poorer. Tariffs on foreign goods will drive up the price of your Made in China MAGA hats even higher and you can pray all you want with his Printed in China bible, but this country was founded on the separation of Church and State, and if that wife cheating, business cheating miscreant thinks he’s going to shove his fundamentalist religion up my keister, he has another thing coming.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sam Katz

    And not to forget, he intends to install Elon as the head of our new Dept. of Government Efficiency. That ought to be be, um, exhilarating.

    Lessee, first we fire 80% of the workforce….

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    D C
    D C
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Bill WIlliams

    Voting D no matter what is an entrenched habit on the UWS, and, clearly, elsewhere in the city. Complaining about the results of D policies is also an entrenched habit.

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    Adam
    Adam
    1 year ago

    Biden won New York by 23 percentage points, she won by 11. Maybe, just maybe, they will start to wake up and address the issues that impact people on a day to day basis.

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    nap
    nap
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Adam

    Curious as to what you think these issues are and how Trump will address them?

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    Boris
    Boris
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Adam

    Harris won NJ by only 5 points; Biden won it by triple that amount.

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    Ella
    Ella
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Adam

    Trump is also going to win the popular vote nationally.

    In related news, the Democrat Party and the media no longer want to do away with the Electoral College.

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    good humor
    good humor
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ella

    OK that was funny.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ella

    As for the latter: source?

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    Ella
    Ella
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    The 2nd part of my above statement was snark. Good humor got the joke!

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ella

    Okey-dokey, then. The humor in these parts can be a tad outré at times (speaking as someone responsible for a fair amount of it).

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    Lisa
    Lisa
    1 year ago

    Everyone at my polling place (71st b/w Amsterdam and Columbus) was so upbeat and kind. I blame the Democratic party for allowing Joe Biden to change his mind and run for a second term. A more centrist Democrat would have won.

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    Carmella Ombrella
    Carmella Ombrella
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Lisa

    I blame Joe Biden for having the hubris to run for a second term when he had promised to be a one-term president and then pass the torch. Had he bowed out earlier he would have ensured his legacy as a great public servant (well, except for the Clarence Thomas thing) and given the party time to field an unrushed campaign with the best possible candidate.

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    Eugene Nickerson
    Eugene Nickerson
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Lisa

    Biden would have lost as well. It was a tight balancing act for a Democrat to win. People voted for normalcy in 2020.

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    Eric
    Eric
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Eugene Nickerson

    I believe Lisa was referring to not having a Democratic primary to vet other candidates. I agree. Biden should have stuck with the one term and done.

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    Ellen
    Ellen
    1 year ago

    Put that chisel down!

    https://nypost.com/2024/08/04/us-news/nancy-pelosi-says-us-should-add-biden-to-mount-rushmore/

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ellen

    I suspect, but cannot prove, that Nancy was merely trolling the usual suspects. If implemented, however, this plan would come with one overwhelming benefit: it would leave no room for Donald’s majestic visage. Perhaps that was her inspiration.

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    josh d
    josh d
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    keep the sarcasm against trump, good way to deal with loss and anger…

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago

    We need to start looking ahead —

    VANCE/MUSK 2025

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    brave in nyc
    brave in nyc
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    smile…..

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    ben
    ben
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    Musk is a naturalized citizen, he is ineligible to run for POTUS or VP office.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ben

    You say that as if these fussy particulars will bother the new order. A billion here, a billion there — soon we’re talking real influence.

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    Carmella Ombrella
    Carmella Ombrella
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ben

    When his cohort in the White houses trashes the Constitution, you can bet that Musk will become eligible.

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    Ernesto
    Ernesto
    1 year ago

    Is Fieldston open or closed? If it is closed for a “day of mourning”, then be aware that it’s nonsensical performance antics like these that got Trump reelected.

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    Ethan
    Ethan
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ernesto

    Exactly. Hey Democrats, if we want to win elections we have to stop being the ‘coddling party’!

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    Non-issue
    Non-issue
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ernesto

    It is not closed and was never going to be “closed.” It is up and running as usual, as planned. I don’t know of a single student who chose to stay home today. And it is nonsensical to extrapolate from a single school’s decision.

    Last edited 1 year ago by Non-issue
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    The bus36
    The bus36
    1 year ago

    Nadler winning for the 18th time is the perfect microcosm for what is wrong with the body Politic. He is completely out of step with the Country and has no real legislative accomplishments, Yet, it is impossible to defeat him. Money and incumbency rules. UWSiders, stop complaining about crime if you are going to keep electing Nadler.

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    OPOE
    OPOE
    1 year ago
    Reply to  The bus36

    Agree. Well put.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago

    To the implementation of specifically which Project 2025 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) policies and initiatives do you most eagerly look forward, assembled celebrants? I can’t help but wonder.

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    Rondo H.
    Rondo H.
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    The Heritage Foundation created Obamacare (Romneycare). They’re the same people who created Project 2025.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Rondo H.

    Okay, Rondo, thanks for the feedback. So you’re saying Project 2025’s proposal to eliminate Obamacare/ACA is your favorite initiative? Just want to make sure I understand. (There are a few folks who’d rather keep it, you know.)

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    ben
    ben
    1 year ago

    Ok now how do we get rid of Adams

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ben

    Wait for the conviction. And next time, don’t opt for a RIDC.

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    OPOD
    OPOD
    1 year ago

    The people have spoken, Let’s Make America Great Again.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  OPOD

    Like in 2017–20, or are we thinking of back before the European invasion?

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    Silver Hammer
    Silver Hammer
    1 year ago

    When a country decides it prefers a convicted felon and a person who was found liable for sexual abuse, that is the day it becomes a “sh*thole country”.

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    Dora
    Dora
    1 year ago

    Today is my birthday and the saddest one I’ve ever had. How can you, my neighbors, be so clueless?

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    J P S
    J P S
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Dora

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY DORA AND MANY MANY MORE.

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    mike
    mike
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Dora

    I care about income inequality and plight of the poor. Higher immigration means lower wages and higher housing costs.

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    C'est moi
    C'est moi
    1 year ago
    Reply to  mike

    True… However weren’t all Americans originally immigrants to the US !? And who’s standing up for those people from other countries who want to better their lives? Take a more prospective view of the world people!

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    mike
    mike
    1 year ago
    Reply to  C'est moi

    The consequences of taking in tens of millions of people from the rest of the world are: lower wages, higher housing costs, overcrowded schools and hospitals, environmental degradation as more people share limited resources, and the list continues. I understand people who want to come the US to better their lives, but we have an obligation to our fellow citizens, and not to the rest of the world.

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    Robertson Tirado
    Robertson Tirado
    1 year ago
    Reply to  C'est moi

    Puerto Ricans, Hawaiians, African American’s and Native Americans are not immigrants.

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    C'est moi
    C'est moi
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Robertson Tirado

    Who said they were! ? However, people coming from countries overseas like from South America or Africa etc to live in the US should be assisted in their move to live in the US of A. .. They’re ‘cheap labor’ and have undoubtedly been misled into believing they’d be welcomed here. …

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    brave in nyc
    brave in nyc
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Dora

    Happy Birthday…..

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    Good Humor
    Good Humor
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Dora

    I think it’s important to realize that calling other people deplorable, garbage or clueless can offend.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Good Humor

    True, it is. And I think it’s important to realize that celebrating fascism (or should I say “the f-word” and hope everyone knows which one I mean?), along a a few other nasty isms, can offend, too.

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    good humor
    good humor
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    Where, specifically, do you see Trump’s actions as Fascist? That word is responsible for literally tens of millions of deaths. Do you see how that might be seen as inflammatory?

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    Alex Wu
    Alex Wu
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    Also offensive (and illegal) is discriminating against Asians solely because of their race in school admissions. Are you offended by Democrats celebrating this kind of racism?

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    SashaUWS
    SashaUWS
    1 year ago

    Reasonable question. I did nor like when Biden won in 2020 but I went on with my life and did not worry about it until Election season. Why is it so hard for some to accept America (there is an America outside NYC you know) has spoken.

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    West90th Street Jeff
    West90th Street Jeff
    1 year ago

    @Dora
    It was my birthday also. What a bummer! I had been anticipating something so much better. I guess the writers here who are elated with Trump‘s victory will definitely never blame Trump if one of their close friends or family dies because the law forbade doctors from performing a therapeutic abortion. And they won’t mind if prices go up because of the rapid rise of tariffs on foreign made goods; they’ll be fine with that. And of course, with KENNEDY in charge of health issues in the country, Trump supporters will be happy to see the spike in cases of measles, tuberculosis, and smallpox. What a disaster they have brought upon this country!

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    OPOE
    OPOE
    1 year ago
    Reply to  West90th Street Jeff

    If all these bad things happen ( which I hope they don’t ), then there will be an election in 2 years
    and another one after that.

    Prices have skyrocketed, which is one of the factors that brought us to this point.

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    UWS Dad
    UWS Dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  OPOE

    Inflation was a global phenomenon in 2021/2022. And Trump has no plan to fix it. Yet half the country struggles to understand cause & effect and falls for the Trumps strongman schtick again and again…

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    mike
    mike
    1 year ago
    Reply to  UWS Dad

    It was not a global phenomenon. Check the inflation rate in Japan or Switzerland for instance for that time period.

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    OPOE
    OPOE
    1 year ago
    Reply to  mike

    But what about the Inflation Reduction Act ?

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    UWS Dad
    UWS Dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  mike

    Not only are you trying to cherry pick examples, you are incorrect. Both Japan and Switzerland both had inflation increase significantly, they just started from a lower base. Japan went from ~1% deflation to a peak of ~4.3%. That’s a MASSIVE move.

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    West90th Street Jeff
    West90th Street Jeff
    1 year ago
    Reply to  OPOE

    In two years time, Trump can do a lot of damage. He can ask his two oldest Supreme Court justices to retire and have his Senate immediately approve two far younger right-wing extremist justices to replace them. on top of that, he can add more appelate court justices to repel the efforts of those of us trying to oppose him in the courts. Skyrocketing prices? With the raise in prices that Trump’s tariffs will cause, whatever price rises you’ve seen will pale in comparison.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  West90th Street Jeff

    Furthermore, deporting 10 million immigrants is bound to do WONDERS for America’s farming industry — and be reflected in food prices. Think it’s bad now? Just wait, or better yet, invest in refrigerated storage units.
    There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch, and after DJ gets his way there won’t be lunch, full stop. Let them eat Chinese MAGA caps.

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    Jerry
    Jerry
    1 year ago
    Reply to  West90th Street Jeff

    As yes, the conservative SC Justices are “extremists” . . . All because they uphold the Constitution. They say you cannot discriminate against people because of their race (I.e. – Asians regarding school admissions). They say the government cannot pressure private companies to censor their political enemies (which the Democrats have done and still want to do). How extremist!

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Jerry

    They say women lack bodily autonomy, aren’t full-fledged human beings entitled to equal protections under the law. How uncontroversial!

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    Andie
    Andie
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    They said no such thing. You clearly didn’t read or comprehend the Hobbs decision. You’re just repeating false DNC talking points. They said there was no Constitutional right to an abortion (true), and they gave it to the states to decide, which is what is done in a federal republic, which is what America is.

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    Katherine
    Katherine
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Andie

    Women having basic human rights like bodily autonomy in some states but not in others is not a sign of a functioning country.

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    frank stew
    frank stew
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Katherine

    Yes because everyone (both women and men) can vote in such states if yes or no they approve such laws. Period.

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    Emma
    Emma
    1 year ago

    Well, now I know how decent Germans must have felt in the 1930’s.

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    Amos
    Amos
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Emma

    Probably the same way they feel when they walk around a college campus and see hundreds of only Democrats waving Hamas flags and saying “go back to Poland”!

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Emma

    And no doubt many of them thought, Well, what’s the worst that can happen?

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    Susan
    Susan
    1 year ago

    Thanks for the summary Sam Katz. As Trump said, “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters.” He was correct about the caliber of the people who vote for him. You get what you pay for. If a Democrat said anything remotely like that, she/he would be out of contention because there is an expectation about a standard of behavior and respect for people at the very minimum. There is no such expectation for Trump, by his supporters, which he understands and acknowledges.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Susan

    And now that our enlightened SCOTUS has ruled back in July that Trump (well, U.S. presidents generally, but we know what they had in mind) enjoy perfect immunity from federal prosecution for all “official acts” committed while in office — and Trump contends that *everything* he does as president counts as an “official act” — we can only hope DJ never sets foot on Fifth Avenue or any other part of NYC again, at least without first being disarmed. Then again, he can always delegate.

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    D M
    D M
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Susan

    “Caliber of people” ? And you are surprised people don’t want to hear insults for their voting choice and leave Democratic party in droves?

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    Liz
    Liz
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Susan

    “caliber of people who vote for him” : keep up the snark and you’ll keep losing elections (deservedly)

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    good humor
    good humor
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Liz

    i agree. Rather than put people down, why not ask them about their opinions?

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    Sam
    Sam
    1 year ago

    People are sick of immigration, taxes, crime. pot, lack of security and policing, reparations. Wake up.

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    Katherine
    Katherine
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sam

    Trump isn’t going to improve any of those things. Literally none of them.

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    OPOD
    OPOD
    1 year ago

    The war in Ukraine will end before President Trump even takes office. Inflation will reverse. Housing prices will reset.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago
    Reply to  OPOD

    “Inflation will reverse.” In that inflation has been dropping pretty steadily since the first half of 2022 and is now at its lowest level (2.1%) since 2021, perhaps we’re in full agreement here: yes, Trump’s crackpot schemes will indeed reverse the aforementioned downward trend lickety-split, and soon we’ll all be reaping the benefits of the wrecked economy that is, after all, Trump/Musk/Putin’s admitted objective. I for one would prefer the current trend to continue. Why you’d believe Trump — whose interventions to bail out his beloved U.S. oil-company donors triggered the inflationary uptick back in April 2020 — is the guy to fix what does not now require fixing is … a good question.

    As for the war in Ukraine, is this the word from the Kremlin or what?

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    Patricia
    Patricia
    1 year ago
    Reply to  ecm

    The rate of inflation has slowed down but cumulative inflation is high and that’s the true number. Once we start to pump our own gas and gas prices start to fall, prices will start to slowly come down. When gas is almost 5$ a gallon in California, it is reflected in prices going up.

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    UWS Dad
    UWS Dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  OPOD

    More empty promises with zero theory of cause and effect. Prices don’t come down for no reason. Ditto on housing prices. Do tell how he will accomplish these things.

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    ecm
    ecm
    1 year ago

    Because I care, just a few more invaluable resources for your “reading” “pleasure”:

    • Project 2025, Explained: https://www.aclu.org/project-2025-explained
    • Project 2025: The right-wing wish list for another Trump presidency: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do
    • The People’s Guide to Project 2025: https://democracyforward.org/the-peoples-guide-to-project-2025/
    • Parts of Project 2025’s radical policy wish list are already on display in numerous states: https://www.mediamatters.org/project-2025/parts-project-2025-radical-policy-wish-list-are-already-display-numerous-states

    Or, to be sure, you could always just wait around and see what happens!

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    Andrea
    Andrea
    1 year ago

    Has anyone even considered what may happen if RFK Jr. becomes head of Health and Human Services, which is what Trump had said recently?. Do please Google how RFK Jr. persuaded Samoans NOT to vaccinate their children against measles. Then a measles epidemic hit. 68 or69 people died, most of them children~~~in the 21st Century, when measles could have been eradicated. And this imbecile is Trump’s choice to look after our health? Just shows even more fully Trump’s lack of judgment and how vulnerable much of our population will be to his “policies.” Isn’t he the president who said that Covid would be over by April? Didn’t he suggest something about drinking Clorox. What a great president has been elected!!!!

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