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    Vaccines Will Be Required to Dine Inside, Work Out at Gyms and See Shows

    August 3, 2021 | 12:29 PM - Updated on June 5, 2022 | 11:40 PM
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    No vax, no entry.

    Mayor de Blasio put some muscle behind Monday’s call for everyone to get vaccinated, announcing on Tuesday morning that he will be mandating that people show proof of vaccination to gain access to indoor activities, such as dining, fitness, and performances. This makes good his vow yesterday that New York will be a very different city for the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

    According to Eater, “The program, which appears to be the first of its kind in the United States, will start on August 16 with full enforcement beginning on September 13.”

    “If you are vaccinated, all of that is going to open up to you,” de Blasio said at a press conference. “Unfortunately, if you are not vaccinated, you will not be able to participate in many things.”

    Andrew Rigie, executive director of the NYC Hospitality Alliance, called the impending mandate “a very difficult step,” but one that “ultimately may prove an essential move to protecting public health and ensuring that New York City does not revert to restrictions and shut down orders that would again absolutely devastate small businesses that have not yet recovered from the pandemic.”

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    43 Comments
    Kevin
    Kevin
    5 years ago

    Cool.

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    RobbieTheK
    RobbieTheK
    5 years ago

    err what about kids < 12?

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    lynn
    lynn
    5 years ago
    Reply to  RobbieTheK

    From the Broadway League: Children under 12, who cannot be vaccinated, can show a negative test to attend.

    But, the Met and Carnegie Hall are banning anyone under the age of 12.

    Still waiting for an update as to whether the NYC Ballet will allow children under the age of 12 in for the Nutcracker performances.

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    Kevin F
    Kevin F
    5 years ago
    Reply to  RobbieTheK

    Did you read the link?

    “Additionally, the mandate does not apply to children under the age of 12, who are not eligible for vaccination at this time and may be at a higher risk of infection.”

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    ben
    ben
    5 years ago
    Reply to  RobbieTheK

    “Additionally, the mandate does not apply to children under the age of 12, who are not eligible for vaccination at this time and may be at a higher risk of infection.” – Eater article

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    Nathan
    Nathan
    5 years ago

    I was vaccinated abroad. How will I prove that I’ve been vaccinated?

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    QA
    QA
    5 years ago

    Vaccine passport

    what about the people who were vaccinated abroad?

    what about someone with a blood disorder and the doctor said to not take the vaccine?

    what about kids under 12 who are not vaxed or eligible to be vaxed?

    what about crowded places like TJ’s and other events?

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    Irena
    Irena
    5 years ago
    Reply to  QA

    If you can’t be vaccinated because of autoimmune or other conditions than sadly you need to be even more careful. But if you want to attend an event etc. it seems you can show a negative COVID test. And probably be very grateful that everyone else there has been vaccinated.

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    Charles
    Charles
    5 years ago

    Yes! About time America!

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    Lisa
    Lisa
    5 years ago

    Such welcome news 🙂 Thank you !!

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    Bob Lamm
    Bob Lamm
    5 years ago

    YES.

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    ben
    ben
    5 years ago

    I’m glad to see the Hospitality Alliance being onboard with this. After all enforcement is large on their members more than anyone else.

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    eloise
    eloise
    5 years ago

    yay!! this is good progress. should’ve happened long ago.

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    Dan S
    Dan S
    5 years ago

    All makes sense, as long as you carve out kids. It would be beyond selfish to leave them behind now that the “vulnerable” group has changed.

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    Dede
    Dede
    5 years ago

    These restrictions are the very best thing that de Blasio has done for the people of NYC. It’s exactly what’s needed to help drive down COVID, at least in the 5 boroughs.

    I hate comments like the one about the “doctor” who says that those with blood disorders should not take the vaccine– dead wrong on so many levels. Is there no end to the misinformation out there?

    The only people who shouldn’t take the vaccine are those who are actually allergic to it.

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    Seabreeze
    Seabreeze
    5 years ago

    The vaccines have not even been fully approved by the FDA. And before someone replies that they’re safe – we do not know the potential long term side effects.

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    Karen Bruno
    Karen Bruno
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Seabreeze

    I agree and I think someone should sue.

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    Eric
    Eric
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Seabreeze

    Very, very true although any long-term side effects are likely to be less severe than death.

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    John Gibson
    John Gibson
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Seabreeze

    Phase III trials for vaccines usually last 6-9 months . We’re well past that now with much more people having taken the vaccine. We already have a larger dataset of people who’ve taken the vaccines more than 9 months ago to have a better understanding of long term health impact than we would with any other vaccine or drug.

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    Chuck d
    Chuck d
    5 years ago

    This is a great move. Thanks!

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    V
    V
    5 years ago

    Finally! So sick of our life being altered because of the fools to stupid to get vaccinated. I hope they add more mandates.

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    nemo paradise
    nemo paradise
    5 years ago

    The Mayor of Boston has taken the opposite tack, comparing vaccine passports to Jim Crow voting laws.

    Thee fact that roughly 60% of NYC’s black population remains unvaccinated — and many continue to avoid vaccination for various reasons — suggests that passports may indeed be de facto exclusionary, intentionally or not.

    This seems to have played a major role in the Boston mayor’s decision. When public health fiats collide with antiracist shibboleths, the outcome is uncertain.

    This could provide an interesting test case. If both cities maintain their policies, we can see which city gets sicker. But given the documented unreliability of Covid death data, probably not.

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    In my opinion
    In my opinion
    5 years ago
    Reply to  nemo paradise

    “The fact that roughly 60% of NYC’s black population remains unvaccinated — and many continue to avoid vaccination for various reasons — suggests that passports may indeed be
    de facto exclusionary, intentionally or not”
    Exclusionary means someone or something has excluded a group. If vaccines were only available in certain neighborhoods or to people in certain professions that could make it “de facto exclusionary, intentionally or not”
    Since vaccines are literally being given away and people are even being paid to get them (which is fine with me) there’s nothing exclusionary at this point. If anything it is paternalistic to say that people in certain groups aren’t capable of making their own decisions and arrangements.
    It’s a mess but it isn’t necessarily exclusionary. Historic systemic racism contributes to vaccine hesitancy for some people but there are other less “legitinate” reasons people aren’t vaccinated. Is the system exclusionary to those who claim the science isn’t proven, or their politician or religious don’t endorse it? A mess, but not exclusionary.

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    Equality of outcome is not reflective of equality of opportunity
    Equality of outcome is not reflective of equality of opportunity
    5 years ago
    Reply to  In my opinion

    Good point, but given the numbers of folks today who conflate equality of outcome with equality of opportunity, I fear your argument will not get traction

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    Chris
    Chris
    5 years ago
    Reply to  In my opinion

    If we can mandate proof of vaccine then voter ID should follow

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    Moshe
    Moshe
    5 years ago

    I wonder how “show me your papers” will fly on the upper west side.

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    Brie Hoffman
    Brie Hoffman
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Moshe

    People forget so fast!

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    John E.
    John E.
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Moshe

    @Moshe, more like show me you’re a responsible and civic minded resident of the UWS.

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    Ms. Byrd
    Ms. Byrd
    5 years ago

    60% of blacks are not vaccinated. This is RACIST.

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    John E.
    John E.
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Ms. Byrd

    @ Ms. Byrd, seriously? You’re going to bring race into this equation? Are blacks being denied the vaccine? Are the vaccines costing them any money? Are they being denied easy access to the vaccine?

    I’m so pissed that it took me hours back in March to get a time slot for vaccine shots on Walgreen’s website for my wife and me and now some local authorities are giving out cash incentives for people to get vaccinated!

    I had an easier time scoring Springsteen tickets online!!!

    No excuses if you’re not vaccinated! It’s time we start punishing the selfish and irresponsible among us!

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    West Ender
    West Ender
    5 years ago
    Reply to  John E.

    Yes, it’s racist, and classist. Not everyone has a cushy office job that allows for PTO to get vaccine, let alone if they need extra time to recuperate from adverse side effects. (Even though by law employers are supposed to allow it.) Perhaps they don’t have internet service to search or make an appointment online. Even though this is 21st century NYC, not everyone has the same privileges or access.

    This policy serves to further separate the haves from the have-nots in NYC. It reminds me of the Pass Books Black South Africans were required to carry under apartheid.

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    ML
    ML
    5 years ago
    Reply to  West Ender

    In-home vaccine appointments are now available to all NYC residents now, using the vaccine of your choosing. An excellent option for people who can’t take time off work
    https://forms.cityofnewyork.us/f/home or call 877-VAX-4NYC for more information

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    Barb
    Barb
    5 years ago

    I don’t understand this. The people who got vaccinated still spread like we saw with the case in MA, 74% got Covid who were vaccinated. How does it help that only vaccinated people can go inside?

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    Paul
    Paul
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Barb

    You miss the detail about 90%+ of the concerned population being vaccinated. And no, 74% didn’t get Covid. 74% of the cases were among the over 90% who are vaccinated.

    Meaning the odds are with the vaccinated.

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    TravelgalNYC
    TravelgalNYC
    5 years ago

    So glad the city is doing this. But until Delta variant spread subsides, I encourage everyone to mask indoors in public places, regardless of vaccination status. Vaccines + masking is our best bet against Delta right now!

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    Francine Vale
    Francine Vale
    5 years ago

    This latest effort to remove our freedoms and rights is yet another gross violation of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights put forth by the current administration. . Those who willingly comply are telling the rest of us they do not honor our great nation and the foundational values of freedom and justice for all for which so many loyal Americans have fought and sacrificed their lives to preserve.

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    Natasha
    Natasha
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Francine Vale

    Nice to know there is one fellow American left here in the Peoples Republic of the Upper Westside.

    Kudos and God Bless, Francine.

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    John E.
    John E.
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Francine Vale

    @ Francine Vale, I would like to know where in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights that says we are free to be ignorant, lazy, selfish, irresponsible or just plain stupid…

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    Gentle correction
    Gentle correction
    5 years ago
    Reply to  John E.

    Freedom does includes the freedom to be wrong – to make poor business decisions to the detriment of your employees’ ability to get paid and in turn pay their rent, to start smoking to the detriment of your kids’ lungs, to eat fatty foods to the detriment of your waistline that incur health costs or any number of life decisions that you may think ill advised. In any event, there is a difference between getting vaccinated and having to show your papers proving that you were. You’re conflating two things.

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    John E.
    John E.
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Gentle correction

    Yeah, I guess freedom means you can act like a pompous jerk just to prove a point by not showing proof of being vaccinated.

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    Judy
    Judy
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Francine Vale

    Oh, please! This has absolutely nothing to do with your freedoms or the constitution. Nothing is being taken away from you. It’s a way of asking you to be a responsible and compassionate citizen and help stop the spread of this dangerous virus.

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    Unwarranted assumptions: missing logical step
    Unwarranted assumptions: missing logical step
    5 years ago
    Reply to  Judy

    You can be compassionate (and vaccinated) without wanting to show medical records to every random waiter, barista, gym attendant etc. How does being required to show these papers make you more compassionate and responsible?

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    David
    David
    5 years ago

    Cool – cool. Show proof of vaccination to eat in a restaurant, take in a show. But show ID to vote? RACIST!

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