By Joy Bergmann
A 16 year-old boy was shot in the chest Sunday night around 11:40 p.m. in front of 201 W. 93rd Street – the DeHostos Apartments between Amsterdam and Broadway, a New York City Housing Authority building – according to an NYPD spokesperson. The teen was transported in stable condition to St. Luke’s Hospital.
Police say the shooting apparently stemmed from a dispute between the victim and another unidentified man who fled the scene. The investigation is ongoing and an NYPD police van remained on the scene as of Monday morning. Stationed officers would not comment about the nature of the dispute or whether police are aware of any ongoing “beefs” on the block.
West Side Rag attempted to speak to several residents as they left the building Monday morning. Many said they did not hear the shots; others said they would not comment on the record.
One man just shook his head and said, “I can’t wait to get out of this place.”
“or whether police are aware of any ongoing ‘beefs’ on the block.”
My experience has been that these Police ignore the street gangs growing stronger each time they are enabled.
You’d be amazed how much NYPD knows about these beefs, about individual gang members and their neighborhood ties, and about the gangs themselves and the feuding subsets within the individual gangs. Why do you think the neighborhood is so peaceful that people complain when the number of incidents goes above one per year.
I’m sure you’re right. A lot of these gang muppets are so stupid that they post pics of themselves on Instagram holding guns. I would think the NYPD would be all over their Instagram accounts. And wouldn’t it be justified to get a warrant to search their premises on the basis of this?
Nope. I’m as anti-gun as they get, but if someone has purchased a gun legally (which is obviously a big “if”), there is nothing wrong with them posting a picture of themselves holding it.
The rule of law is a wonderful thing and I am all for protecting the rights of citizens, but it also greatly limits what the police can do. Oftentimes, this is a good thing, but just as often it is a bad thing.
Good luck with that. A false (managed) sense of security is some substitute for law enforcement. Not.
The current policing has led to your murders, your rapes, and a 16 year-old shot.
Way to go! We got this! (Move on, nothing to see here.)
A 16-year-old shouldn’t be referred to as a “man” – he’s a kid!
FYI This went out shortly after the first job
NYC| Manhattan, NY| Shooting/Stabbing| SOD| 136 W 91st St.| U/D: Corrected location for the confirmed male shot.| NYC249| 00:29
based on the 24 numbers this makes 3 for the year so far vs 1 for last year
This should do wonders for property values in the high-end condo that is replacing the (now-demolished) synagogue directly across 93rd Street from this housing project.
Another reason that the Monthly Crime Reporting is intentionally quashed.
But, hey better to keep property selling high than to keep the streets safe.
16 year-old boy
I don’t blame the police for ignoring how some citizens ravage their own neighborhood, terrorize each other and have as many wing-nuts that NYC has, with a mayor that couldn’t be more disapproving of the police and supportive of the thugs.
Well said, George!
seriously, George?
Wake-up!
You’re willing to write off a kid at 16?
This is a nightmare!
The rival Gangs in these area neighborhood city housing building. Kids fighting kids with guns.
Can anyone figure this out, or know the answer.
It must be patrolled better?
Parents keep kids in the house?
How do we Stop the gun violence?
Teens need to get a job and be too busy to hang out looking for trouble if the family can’t afford to send them to camp for the summer.
This has been going on for decades in those projects! This is NOT a ride in crime! It’s always been here!
If there were decent jobs and decent housing you wouldn’t see this escalation in street crime.
But hey, the people who contributed to this situation will reap the outcome. Seems fair.
If there were decent jobs and decent housing you wouldn’t see this escalation in street crime.
That simple, hah?
Just what makes the NYCHA housing-in-question less-than “decent”?
And what about Appalachia and the ‘Rust Belt’? How do those demographics rate and compare when it comes to both jobs and housing, as well as street crime?
As for jobs, hasn’t the unemployment rate been at historic lows for some time already now? And whatever the quality of the jobs may be, the relevant question here is: When was the last time it was better?
But hey, the people who contributed to this situation will reap the outcome. Seems fair.
So, in other words, should anyone whom you have deemed culpable in what you have declared to be the cause of what you have characterized as “this escalation in street crime” fall victim to said phenomenon, said individual will have gotten what was coming to him. Thanks for being so revealing.
Rather than constantly second guessing everyone and taking the unpopular stance, could you please present a concise, clear solution to these problems? And one that is affordable within the constraints of the city’s limited budget? It is very easy to criticize but not as easy to present viable solutions.
And now on to Limited Budgets:
How’s about a $700 Billion Defense Budget?
A Tax Bill that adds $1.7 Trillion debt deficit
and on and on…
But Trump! That was fast.
I did: “decent jobs and decent housing”.
Here is one that is affordable within the constraints of the city’s limited budget:
In Expensive Cities, Rents Fall for the Rich — but Rise for the Poor (Washington Post, August 6, 2018)
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In expensive cities, rents fall for the rich — but rise for the poor
WASHINGTON, DC – SEPTEMBER 30: A view looking southwest at the construction cranes, the washington monument in the distance, from NoMa (North of Massachusetts Ave) in Washington, DC on September 30, 2011. (Linda Davidson/THE WASHINGTON POST)
By Jeff Stein
August 6
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U.S. cities struggling with soaring housing costs have found some success in lowering rents this year, but that relief has not reached the renters most at risk of losing their housing…
But the decline is being driven primarily by decreasing prices for high-end rentals. People in low-end housing, the apartments and other units that house working-class residents, are still paying more than ever…
The ongoing increase in prices for low-end renters poses a challenge for city officials who have vowed to lower housing costs for working-class residents already struggling with tepid wage growth in the U.S. economy.
City officials have said a boom in luxury housing construction would cause rents to fall for everyone else, arguing that creating new units for those at the top would ease competition for cheaper properties.
In part based on that theory, cities have approved thousands of new luxury units over the past several years, hoping to check high rents that have led more than 20 million American renters to be classified as “cost burdened,” defined as spending more than 30 percent of one’s income on housing.”
The Left has the blood of poor kids on its hands. Active policing of the past, including, yes, Stop and Frisk, saved lives.
The lesson will have to be learned again before similarly effective solutions are found. Sad.
Hopefully, more kids can get jobs thanks to the President’s booming economy and move away from criminal activity.
See: The War on Cops by Heather McDonald: How the New Attack on Law and Order Makes Everyone Less Safe.
“Active policing of the past, including, yes, Stop and Frisk, saved lives.”
Stop and frisk was never shown to be particularly effective, even in the lawsuit that ultimately shut it down. You need to get poor kids’ name out of your mouth while you fantasize about policing them harder. You really aren’t fooling anybody.
But why is crime lower now without stop n frisk?
While this “kid” may or may not have been involved….Columbus Avenue Gunners and Money Comes First have had a long running violent ongoing confrontation. It is between the Douglas Houses and Wise Towers. They have had many shootings, slashing, assaults over the years. Many in board daylight and on the B’way corridor. There have also been incidents along the 99th and 103rd streets between as they prove good escape routes into the park
You should note that must of these two groups and their associates are largely minors. It will be interesting to see what if an cooperation there is with the NYPD investigation
As a former resident of this place, it has not been this bad in a long time. I have seen some of these children grow up, they are not horrible kids, their parents are. They have lost control of them. They have been subjected to neglect,abuse etc. Kids are running amok because they have no role models, or anyone to set them on the straight, and narrow. These kids aren’t as PRIVILEGED as their next door neighbors chillin’ in their upscale condos, going to prestigious schools, drinking their Starbucks, and all those extracurricular activities that their parents can afford them. Telling them to get a job, and stay off the streets is easier said than done, especially when they have no guidance, and you can’t relate to their struggle.
The area needs to be patrolled a bit more. Police need to work on building positive relationships with people that live in the area. NOT harass them, or profile them. Then again, we are the “low class”, forgotten upper west siders. No one gives a fu**.
Having grown up poor in the real South Bronx, I can totally relate and I can say they can and should be told to get a job regardless of what they went through. I went through all that neglect and abuse myself, more than most of these kids here living on the much nicer UWS and took advantage of the good available to me (free public schools, free public libraries to get away from the horrible “parenting”, great teachers, finding role models all around me – teachers, police etc.
Stop and Frisk works as does opening people’s eyes to getting themselves out but not if it’s easier/sexier to goof around. Life is easy for very few.
Thank you for this response. It is much more valuable than the tired responses of all the bleeding hearts who think they know what is best for other people.
the kids come from 74 West 92, 589amsterdam, 133 West 90th, the hang around , the park between 90th and 91 Street, All Day Long, and the music!!! Were are there parents! THE PLAZA!!!
But here’s the good news, fellow UWS residents.
No minorities are being targeted by the NYPD for Stop, Question, Frisk!!
Thank you, Mayor Bill De Blasio, and thank you, NY City Council. Keep voting for Democrats to run NYC, folks.
Apparently your not up to speed on your Constitutional Law. Let me help you out: see Fourth and Fourteenth Amendment.
Thank you, WSR, for reporting this. I live nearby and heard 4-6 loud noises last night and wondered if they were gunshots, but didn’t hear any other sounds afterwards and did not think the larger newspapers would report it even if it had been shots.
There are numerous incidents in the early 90s along Amsterdam and Columbus. I won’t walk there after dark anymore. You only ever see police parked at the 7/11 at 89th and Columbus. Everyone should stay away. Makes going to the new Trader Joes at night impossible.
It doesn’t help to be alarmist. Let’s not cede the streets to ruffians: the more ordinary people are out at night the less likely these incidents are to occur.
I would rather have people make a point of walking along the specific 93rd street block between Amsterdam and Broadway so it doesn’t become a ghost town at night with the projects on one side and the (albeit temporary) building site on the other. There’s good street lighting and doormen watching from across the street at 215 West 93rd so no reason for people to avoid it.
“West Side Rag attempted to speak to several residents as they left the building Monday morning. Many said they did not hear the shots; others said they would not comment on the record.”
These people are TERRIFIED. In their own home. At their doorstep. Who will protect them?
i would like to point out that the 16 year old who was shot appears to be a VICTIM, not a criminal.
having a “dispute” with someone is not a criminal act.
how come no sympathy for someone who, at this point, appears to be a victim of violent gun crime?
It’s time to stop screwing around. We are all tired of the gang warfare and those who make excuses for the violence. It’s only a matter of time before an innocent bystander takes a stray bullet.
The NYPD needs to bring gun sweeps back to the projects and stop and frisk anyone who is a known gang member.
I hope Mark Levine and Helen Rosenthal are listening.
I have downloaded the app “citizen” on my phone which alerts me whenever any crime,fire, etc occurs in our neighborhood. It is very helpful to know exactly what is happening near my home instead of hoping the news covers it. This happened to be one of the alerts i received along with a few more on the same night. I can definitely say theres a pattern near all the housing projects.
I have to give major credit to the WSR. You guys are always on the cutting edge with everyone else eating your dust! You were first to report on this incident. I didn’t see anyone else cover it till the next day.I live right by Trader Joe’s and have heard about incidents happening right outside the store around 9:00/10:00 PM. We worry about walking the dog after dark.There should be more of a police presence. They’re building market rate housing right across the street on the spot the synagogue was on. Or maybe condos. Personally I would not pay top dollar to live in a building and worry about gang members shooting and robbing people right across the street.This comes up a lot as soon as the weather gets warmer. All I can say is be vigilant, though I resent having to live that way.