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RUMORMILL: ICONIC MIDTOWN RETAILER WILL MOVE INTO OLD LOEHMANN’S SPACE

June 7, 2016 | 9:07 AM
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This week, workers began breaking up the sidewalk in front of the old Loehmann’s store. Photo by Berkely.

We’ve now heard from several tipsters about a possible tenant for the old Loehmann’s space on Broadway between 73rd and 74th street, but we haven’t been able to confirm the news. According to multiple readers who have spoken to employees at the North Face next door and the Bloomingdale’s Outlet two blocks away, the old Loehmann’s will become a Saks store.

Gretchen tells us it will be a Saks Off Fifth discount store, which means Broadway in the 70’s could become a kind of discount retail alley. Saks did not respond to our request for confirmation. The company has been expanding in the city in the past year or so.

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WombatNYC
WombatNYC
8 years ago

Welcome to the Mall of America = NYC

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Lorraine
Lorraine
8 years ago
Reply to  WombatNYC

That’s always where I tell people I live. I used to live on 91st. Wish I could put my current apartment on my current block but in the low 90s. It’s still cute up there. In fact, shops/eateries I would have liked opened months – in some case days – after I moved out. sonofa…

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  Lorraine

I live there (here, i mean). Better than most, worse than some. Plenty of complaints, but no regrets.

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40yearsUWS
40yearsUWS
8 years ago
Reply to  WombatNYC

NY Times predicted this in the 80s.

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Christina
Christina
8 years ago
Reply to  WombatNYC

That is sooooo true! Omg! The end of a residential Upper West Side! And all the mom and pops that went along with it! It’s a sick, mall like time in this city! People who come from the suburbs clamor for this wanting the convenience of walking to different venues without driving.

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Cary
Cary
8 years ago

Yes!

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago

I prefer Saks Off Fifth to Bloomingdale’s Outlet. This is destination shopping on high-octane.

There goes that neighborhood.

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Christina
Christina
8 years ago
Reply to  dannyboy

It’s like any outlet store! Not very good quality! Go to the original store considering we have them right here in NYC!

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BMAC
BMAC
8 years ago

I really don’t understand the objections to Bloomie’s Outlet or Saks Off Fifth when Loehmann’s was here for decades. What’s the difference? One remainderer vs. another?

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  BMAC

And now there are 2; Bloomingdale’s Outlet is two blocks away.

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Carla J
Carla J
8 years ago

If Saks does move in, I truly hope the merchandise is several steps up from the sorry samples in the Bloomingdale’s outlet.

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Christina
Christina
8 years ago
Reply to  Carla J

Sorry to say, they won’t be. Outlets Never are. The quality is not the same! Good for people who can’t get to original store but we have them right here in Manhattan!

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Ish Kabibble
Ish Kabibble
8 years ago

Love to come to WSR, read an article about a positive change to the neighborhood, and read all the bitching.

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  Ish Kabibble

I just read your Wikipedia entry.108 years old AND STILL FUNNY.

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Christina
Christina
8 years ago

Boo…Enough with clothing stores and especially those which are discounted but still expensive, because of designer labels,to many of us. I would have preferred a Home Goods. We don’t have enough stores for home furnishings. Gracious Home is overpriced and Bed Bath and Beyond is limited.

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Angie106
Angie106
8 years ago
Reply to  Christina

There’s a homegoods on 100th and columbus.. Why add another in the neighborhood? Doesn’t make sense for business. Wouln’t you like a hobby lobby.. Perhaps a Ross discount store or a christmas tree shop?

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UWSShopster
UWSShopster
8 years ago

I hope Saks Off Fifth has better stuff than Loehmann’s and Bloomingdales Outlet, the latter being really cheap junk stuff. I’m pretty sure that, similar to Loehmann’s any of these cheap fabric, poorly made ‘designer’ discount stores will not last, despite supposed financial backing of Luxury Retailers. Replacing Loehmann’s with Saks Off Fifth does not add more retail to the hood. Do the math -1+1=0. I’d like to see Nordstrom Rack replace Bloomies Outlet, which is wasting prime retail space and frustrating us UWS Shopsters.

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Judy Katz
Judy Katz
8 years ago

This is all to the good for 2nd Time Around, the designer resale outlet on
W. 72 between West End Avenue and Broadway. Their offerings in high-end clothing, shoes, boots, jewelry, pocketbooks etc. are far superior to any of these big retailers, at a FRACTION of the price.

I have a billion dollar wardrobe now thanks to 2nd Time Around and in fact am dating a billionaire! Any woman that wants to dress well for less owes it to herself to check out this amazing place. There is just no comparison to any of the outlets—it’s a best kept secret I am happy to share.

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Blarvin
Blarvin
8 years ago
Reply to  Judy Katz

Do you enjoy working there?

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UWSSurfer
UWSSurfer
8 years ago
Reply to  Blarvin

Not everyone is a paid shill. People actually have opinions about where they shop and dine. Second Time Around has beautiful clothes and 2 locations.

I agree with Christina. Home Goods would have been perfect for this spot.

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Blarvin
Blarvin
8 years ago
Reply to  UWSSurfer

Do you guys go on break together?

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Norma Kain
Norma Kain
8 years ago
Reply to  Blarvin

I think I love you.

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jezbel
jezbel
8 years ago

I lived near two Off-Fifth stores in Scottsdale Arizona. They mostly had crap. Either super ugly actual Saks stuff in bizarre sizes or merchandise made for discount market. What a disappointment. You can get the same clothes are TJ Maxx on a good day. Thought they sell nice housewares and dishes.

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  jezbel

Christina’s looking for Housewares.

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Lyri Clark
Lyri Clark
8 years ago

Why can’t we get a real store rather than yet another junky outlet? I live here and am dismayed to see my neighborhood become destination shopping for unwanted merchandise.what a waste of space that Bloomies outlet is…just awful.
I wish for a Barnes&noble or a real Nordstrom or a Homegoods..something with quality, something interesting. I happened to pass that Marshalls …so depressing..how do they pay the rent? Why are they there?? We could actually use more century 21 housewares type merchandise..like the downtown store.So many worthwhile merchants could fill that spot ..why not a creative store like Dover Street Market…upscale and swoon-worthy.
Fyi, 2nd time around is nowhere near a Real consignment shop..customer share is only 40% and their selection is so tacky.

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sam
sam
8 years ago
Reply to  Lyri Clark

you can just walk over to the shops on Columbus, where we’ve been “blessed” with a never ending supply of stores that appear to contain three pieces of merchandise consisting entirely of flimsy white tops and black trousers, all artfully displayed on hangers carefully spaced apart so that they don’t touch, being sold for hundreds of dollars apiece.

(I miss Harry’s Burritos)

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Shopper
Shopper
8 years ago

Sounds dubious – there’s already a Saks Off Fifth on 57th Street between Park and Lex.

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Wendy
Wendy
8 years ago

A really huge TJ Maxx or Marshall’s with a great selection of stuff (unlike the palty 77th Street and 100th Street stores) would be welcome, not a Saks Off Fifth. We have plenty of high priced stores I never frequent, including the new Bloomingdales where Urban Outfitters used to be. I never see people in the discount Barneys. This is not that kind of neighborhood.

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Noreaster
Noreaster
8 years ago

My wishes for a Container Store will apparently fade and die.

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ScooterStan
ScooterStan
8 years ago

Wow!
Saks on the UWS !!
Now all we need is a violin trio to play outside Saks ……….GIVING US …………………..
an UpperWestSide version of ‘Saks ‘n’ Violin(ce).

🙂

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SB
SB
8 years ago

I was hoping that CB2 would open there — the closest one is on 3rd and 58th street. funky and nice furniture/housewares for less $$. could use that cool factor on the UWS

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Cjberk
Cjberk
8 years ago
Reply to  SB

That’s a great idea…also container store would be great…but it’s not a huge space so that might influence who moves in. Btw, the Barney’s is lovely and elegant and NOT discount…it’s a Barneys “co-op” ..a smaller version of the big store. Many of us would love to see more upscale merchandise in our neighborhood. Who said the UWS had to be home to discount low-end junk??

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  Cjberk

@Cjberk, the neighborhood shopping has bifurcated into 2 extremes: luxury and crap. This is troubling to me. I want neither luxurification nor crapification.

This past weekend I traveled to Cold Spring for a visit. I did my gift shopping for nice presents while there. I used to do that shopping on the UWS and miss it.

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Cjberk
Cjberk
8 years ago
Reply to  dannyboy

Dannyboy..i totally agree. Other neighborhoods
Have achieved this mix …why can’t we? Oh well….

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tyler
tyler
8 years ago

that’s a shame. Mount Sinai was supposed to open offices there. I guess they got out-bid. That would have been nice since their other offices are in the 90s. Plus, really, two outlet stores next to each other? What is this – New Jersey?

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Sean
Sean
8 years ago
Reply to  tyler

Mt. Sinai is going on to the 2nd floor. The laundry around the corner will lose part of its space to accommodate an exit for the clinic.

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  Sean

“The laundry around the corner will lose part of its space…”

Don’t get me started on laundries.

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EricaC
EricaC
8 years ago

I would have liked Broadway Panhandler or something like that.

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barry
barry
8 years ago

kind of ironic that many suburbs/small towns within commuting distance now have a better collection of Mom & Pops than the old neighborhood.

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Sean
Sean
8 years ago
Reply to  barry

But doesn’t that make sense because the owners probably live near their businesses. That is not the case on the UWS now. I can remember when local teens worked in the small shops we had. Those days are gone.

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Bestest!

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  barry

best!

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Lois Stavsky
Lois Stavsky
8 years ago

How disappointing!

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LS
LS
8 years ago

Bloomingdale’s and Sak’s apparently not concerned that “outlet” stores in Manhattan will cannibalize the regular stores?
Not too long ago, designers and retailers wanted the “outlet” stores far away from the regular store.
BTW Nordstrom’s (regular not rack) is supposed to be opening on 57th Street in one of the new billionaire buildings.

The addition of a Saks outlet suggests that there will be more vehicle traffic (delivery, Uber etc) and more crowds on the subway/at the station.
More “destination” chain stores helping to transform an actual neighborhood into an outdoor mall. Hard to believe that the UWS was once known for bookstores.

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Betsy
Betsy
8 years ago
Reply to  LS

There has already been additional traffic since Trader Joe’s opened. Shoppers come by subway; some come in cabs.

Question: Do those who come in cabs still manage to save money on this excursion?

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No patience
No patience
8 years ago
Reply to  LS

LS..it would be great if outlet stores actually carried quality merchandise but that’s not the case. It’s basically junk ..so I don’t understand why the UWS is their chosen location. We deserve better. We’d welcome a bookstore/cafe etc. I have a feeling Saks will not open ..they are too smart to cheapen their image ..they’re already on E.57th.

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  No patience

I have a sickening feeling that Saks will open. The idea of destination shopping is real on the UWS. I have spoken with many restaurateurs who say that customers drive over the GWB and park either in a garage or Amsterdam to eat in nyc.

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Sean
Sean
8 years ago
Reply to  LS

Traditional rules for retail do not apply anymore with the advent of online shopping. You are lucky to get anyone into a brick and mortar store.

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nycissues.org
nycissues.org
8 years ago
Reply to  Sean

Our zoning on the UWS stresses high density residential and only provides for small retail space suitable for old fashioned local department stores like Woolworth’s of the 1950’s. Without the availability of large retail space, the outlet stores provide excellent local presence and are good advertising for the chains since there is little billboard space on streets of the UWS.

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  nycissues.org

Very enlightening. So that’s what’s up!

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Nancy
Nancy
8 years ago

Damn, with real estate prices so high and rents even higher you would think we could afford a real Bloomingdales or Saks!
Better patronize, Tip Top, Town Shop, Laytners, and Harry’s, those are the last of the mom and pops that help define the UWS as we knew it.

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  Nancy

My lovely wife just returned home with a gorgeous swimsuit from Town Shop: attention Shoppers!

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Denton Taylor
Denton Taylor
8 years ago

Second Time Around is a good place to get stuff cheap. However honestly their stores in other nabes are better than the two UWS branches. I suspect that is cuz the UWS is the not first choice of the young and hip to live these days.

As far as these crappy stores we are getting from Saks and Bloomies, if you want the good stuff Barney’s is right there. But do you ever see anyone in Barneys? Me neither.

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Suzanne
Suzanne
8 years ago

I think I’m going to vomit.
We need to have a memorial service to say our goodbye’s to the character and convenience of the Upper west side.
It’s reached that point now.

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pjrod
pjrod
8 years ago

Prediction…

In 2025 WSR reports the return of all mom and pop shops to the UWS. WSR readers bemoan the loss of banks, pharmacies and retail chains.

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RedRaleigh
RedRaleigh
8 years ago

I’ve lived on the UWS for over 40 years. It’s still a diverse, wonderful part of Manhattan to live in with great food, good shopping and natural resources. Has it changed? Of course. Life is about change. Is it worse now? Not by a long shot.

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dannyboy
dannyboy
8 years ago
Reply to  RedRaleigh

Bravo! Bravo!

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Sean
Sean
8 years ago

What we need next is a Chucky Cheese.

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