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    Here’s the UWS Dish: Barney Greengrass’s Pastrami Reuben (With a Side of Schmaltz Herring)

    April 28, 2025 | 8:29 AM - Updated on August 24, 2025 | 7:27 PM
    in COLUMNS, FOOD
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    The Reuben sandwich at Barney Greengrass. Photos by Abigael T. Sidi

    By Abigael T. Sidi

    Everyone knows who the Sturgeon King is; his highness needs no introduction. Nova, whitefish, sable, sturgeon, trout – Barney Greengrass (“a New York tradition since 1908”) has it all and will ship it to you nationwide.

    In its century-plus in business, Barney Greengrass has been covered a gazillion times, so how can my column possibly add anything of significance? Well, reading through the gigantic menu, I realized that while Barney Greengrass is pretty much world famous for its smoked fish, there is an entire menu section dedicated to meats.

    “I’ll have the Reuben!”  I said, on a recent visit accompanied by my father. Speechless, my dad looked at me in utter disbelief, then warned me he would NEVER allow me to write my column using the good family name…unless I also covered his menu choice: schmaltz herring with onion bialy. Deal.

    Schmaltz herring and bialy at Barney Greengrass.

    First, the schmaltz (it is an “appetizer” after all). The fillet was sliced into six pieces and, I must admit, looked enticing with its shiny skin and nacre flesh. The bite was incredibly salty, though, so Dad showed me how it’s done: “Take a piece of bialy (toasted, crunchy, thin and light, delicious bagely flavor), spread some cream cheese, tack on a slice of herring with a little bit of onion, sprinkle a few drops of lemon, and there you have it!”  I bit into the mini-sandwich, and, wow: Now, the rich, meaty fish came through, with a pure, raw intensity that overshadowed the pickled/vinegary varieties more commonly offered in the city.

    Now to the Reuben. It’s served open, butterfly style. Intimidating, to say the least. The melted cheese is plentiful and not too oily, the sauerkraut is of the milder, softer variety with a pleasant texture, and the layers upon layers of hot pastrami are juicy, fatty, and incredibly tasty, with subtle briny undertones. The thickness of the slices is somewhere in between the thinner 2nd Avenue Deli and thicker Katz cuts. The Russian dressing is there but does not interfere with the stars of the show, and the rye is slightly toasted.  To absolutely no one’s surprise, Dad couldn’t get his eyes off the sandwich and ended up eating half of it.  “Good call, Abs,” he whispered.

    I kept glancing at the register, looking for a rare instant when his highness, third-generation owner Gary Greengrass, might have a minute for questions.  When the moment came, Dad tagged along… and proceeded to immediately cut me off so he could ask about his herring.

    Gary answered in an engaging and playful voice: “There’s scarcity these days. Generally, the ones that work are the fattier and meatier; most of them Icelandic herring.” Asked where he gets his fish from, he answered, “For all our fish, we work with our smokers, some from Brooklyn, some other places as well. But these guys don’t get the fish from Hunts Point [i.e., the Fulton Fish Market in the Bronx]. Our smokers get the product directly.”

    Asked whether the schmaltz are prepped in house, he nodded. “You get the fish and you fillet it up, then it sits in salt for around six months,” he said. “It’s very salty. Some people love it; if you love it, you know, that means you’re a real Jew!”

    I glanced at Dad. He was beaming, and yep, we’ll never hear the end of that one.

    Finally, I could ask about my Reuben. How so tasty? “The pastrami, it’s a piece that’s closer to the rib, it’s fatty, it tastes different,” Gary told us. “You could buy stuff for a fraction of the cost, but we go for the cut closer to the rib, it’s the way it’s always been…We started in 1908, and we’ve been in this location since 1929, this is the new location.”

    Gary Greengrass’s favorite sandwich? “Well, this tire [pointing to the right side of his stomach] likes whitefish, nova, extra cream cheese, tomato, onion, all on a toasted bialy.”

    Barney Greengrass is open from 8:30 a.m. till 4 p.m. from Tuesday to Friday (till 5.p.m on weekends) and is closed on Mondays. Indoor and outdoor seating available but no reservations (on weekends at brunch time, the wait for a table can be 30 minutes+).  And famously, Barney Greengrass is CASH ONLY; watching Gary somehow master his way through the mixed piles of $100 bills, paper orders, receipts, and regulars’ monthly bills (you read that right) at his register, all the while a foot away from the front door, is the stuff of legends. Certified childhood memory.

    On our way out, I ask Gary whether a Greengrass the Fourth might have been identified. “A son, 18, in college learning business…He’s interested,” he answers, with a hopeful smile.

    I’d like to dedicate this “Here’s The Dish” to Bob Tannenhauser, who was the first to give me a shot in real world journalism back in 2023. I hope to carry the torch. May his memory be a blessing.

    The Dish: Pastrami Reuben ($24), plus Schmaltz Herring ($15)

    The Restaurant: Barney Greengrass, 541 Amsterdam Avenue (between West 86th and 87th streets)

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    33 Comments
    William Meister
    William Meister
    1 year ago

    Great Story,
    I grew up in the building housing Barney Greengrass, 5 stories above the store. I often met Barney in his apron, in the elevator. My ES teachers (PS166) often ate lunch there. Loved his rye bread & pickles. Memories of an 87 year old.

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    Schmoul
    Schmoul
    1 year ago

    Beautiful, insightful, and most of all, gutsy piece. I actually think you did them a favor covering their underrated fleischig menu, their pastrami and tongue are right up there yet no one knows about it. Your dad’s schmalz mini-sandwich sounds great, I’m guessing the cream cheese tones down the saltiness, I’ll have to try that.
    My go to at BG is the plain white fish salad on a bagel, best in town, was Philip Roth’s favorite at BG as well, I believe. Try it next time, that and the tongue!!

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    Peter
    Peter
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Schmoul

    Gutsy? It centers on a lunch sandwich, with all due respect. It’s not a sequel to the Watergate investigation.

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    dad
    dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Peter

    perhaps… maybe a close second to woodward/bernstein

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    Schmoulik
    Schmoulik
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Peter

    ah the 2020’s, when context was removed from conversation

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    Barbara E. Morgan
    Barbara E. Morgan
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Peter

    Oh, relax!

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    Dan
    Dan
    1 year ago

    For anyone who doubted it, Barney Greengrass is THE crown jewel of the UWS. Best fish, best deli meats, best decor, best waiters, best everything. It has and always will be my favorite luncheon in New York and I will cling to Gary’s 18 year old taking over in a few years. It feels from your interview with him, that « hopeful smile », that he’s unsure. Losing BG would be like losing the neighborhood’s soul. Would be a catastrophe

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    OPOE
    OPOE
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Dan

    We will survive.

    I read somewhere that cities evolve and change.

    Don’t quote me.

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    Curmudgeon
    Curmudgeon
    1 year ago

    This place’s prices are criminal

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    Cato
    Cato
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Curmudgeon

    “This place’s prices are criminal”? Then the marketplace will speak, customers will stay away and they’ll have to lower their prices to stay in business.

    Meanwhile, “on weekends at brunch time, the wait for a table can be 30 minutes+”. Does it sound like the marketplace is agreeing with you?

    Would we all like prices, on Barney Greengrass and everything else, to be lower? Of course. But as long as you get what you pay for, people will pay for it.

    Next!

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    Virgil Thompson
    Virgil Thompson
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Cato

    All but the appetizers, if even that, are unaffordable to most people. Their only virtue is that an appetizer platter such as chopped liver, is enough for a meal. Their fish prices are ridiculous. I went to a Russian deli and all the smoked fish was the same low price. Sable is not a fur coat. But they price it like it is. No, they are definitely gouging people. I did like that they sold tins of Twinings tea.

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    Roseann
    Roseann
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Cato

    I live in Arizona. Two days ago I went to a local Mexican restaurant for lunch, ordered a stuffed sopapilla dish, refried beans and rice. $20. That’s the cost these days. We live in very strange times.

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    Schmoul
    Schmoul
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Curmudgeon

    Criminal?? Have you visited Katz lately??

    Last edited 1 year ago by Schmoul
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    dad
    dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Schmoul

    agreed, the rare jewish delis remaining in the city are on the higher end of barney greengrass. greengrass is not cheap, but it’s no rip off

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    RCP
    RCP
    1 year ago

    You’re making me drool.

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    Good Humor
    Good Humor
    1 year ago

    Why cash only?

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    dad
    dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Good Humor

    no idea, but Gary’s register is a sight to behold. Thinking of getting a monthly bill with him, just to find out how good he is with his accounting

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    Virgil Thompson
    Virgil Thompson
    1 year ago
    Reply to  dad

    Cash only facilitates multiple sets of books, cash skimming, as well as no credit fees paid. But will they take checks?

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    Schmoul
    Schmoul
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Virgil Thompson

    lol

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    Sarah
    Sarah
    1 year ago

    To me, a reuben is corned beef, not pastrami, but that sure doesn’t mean I wouldn’t eat what’s in the picture!

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    dad
    dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Sarah

    is that true? always thought reuben was pastrami

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    Dwh
    Dwh
    1 year ago

    The hot pastrami sandwich on rye with mustard at Barney Greengrass is quietly the best pastrami sandwich in the city. By far.

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    dad
    dad
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Dwh

    Abby’s dad here. I agree, I couldn’t believe it. Cheese+kraut not required, pastrami is a stunner

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    Ped Astel
    Ped Astel
    1 year ago

    $40 for lunch. And that doesn’t even come close to the upsell GG is famous for, tax and a tip…. You end up spending a day’s salary for one meal.

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    Janet
    Janet
    1 year ago

    🤮

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    Boring
    Boring
    1 year ago

    Does it come with there rodents?

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    Pepper
    Pepper
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Boring

    Their

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    Dee
    Dee
    1 year ago

    That pastrami sandwich looks like a heart attack on a plate! But what a way to go…

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    Dino Vercotti
    Dino Vercotti
    1 year ago

    Reuben sandwiches shouldn’t be open faced. It’s not a tuna melt so don’t treat it that way. Fail.

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    Virgil Thompson
    Virgil Thompson
    1 year ago

    Reubens are disgusting. Cheese on meat is revolting, as well as not Jewish, not kosher.

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    Ped Astel
    Ped Astel
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Virgil Thompson

    yeah, everyone hates cheeseburgers 🙄

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    Dino Vercotti
    Dino Vercotti
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ped Astel

    LOL!

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    Schmoul
    Schmoul
    1 year ago
    Reply to  Ped Astel

    was about to ask that, how many cheeseburgers has this guy had?

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