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Grammarians on the Upper West Side

September 8, 2024 | 6:08 AM
in ABSURDITY, ART, COLUMNS
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By Gary Martin

As a cartoonist, I need to think both about words and pictures, though I confess, I’m not much of a grammarian. So I wasn’t surprised to witness this UWS exchange recently. And was somewhat pleased to learn, as husbands go, I’m not alone.

Gary B. Martin is an illustrator and animator who has lived on the Upper West Side for more than three decades. His Sunday illustrations for West Side Rag chronicle life in the neighborhood, New York City, and the Universe.

Watch for Gary’s illustrations on Sundays in the Rag and see them all here. For a broader range of Gary’s work, including animations and other motion graphics, please visit www.martoons.com

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JAL
JAL
10 months ago

Ellen Jovin, the Grammar Table is a lot of fun

https://youtu.be/ZOiNQ-YGP_k?si=qbHgAH0ag2kGg6Ch

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Ellen T. White
Ellen T. White
10 months ago

OMG when I read the first frame, I immediately thought “fewer arguments.” Hilarious, once again!

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Joanna
Joanna
10 months ago

Guffaw!!!!

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Julia
Julia
10 months ago

Also ‘weren’t’ not ‘wasn’t.’

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RCP
RCP
10 months ago
Reply to  Julia

Not sure this is correct. Subjunctive case applies to impossible or highly doubtful hypothetical situations. In this case, the character clearly is pedantic. Of course, I don’t mean to be pedantic.

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Asking for a friend
Asking for a friend
10 months ago
Reply to  Julia

#subjunctive

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Sharon
Sharon
10 months ago

OMG, this made me laugh out loud today! Thank you for giving me something to smile about on a Sunday.

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Peter Birkenhead
Peter Birkenhead
10 months ago

So funny.

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Ped Estrian
Ped Estrian
10 months ago

I have fewer hope in humanity. Less so now than ever.

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James
James
10 months ago

Lol!

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Nancy D
Nancy D
10 months ago

Very funny. And I’m sure that’s me in the picture…

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Ish Kabibble
Ish Kabibble
10 months ago
Reply to  Nancy D

It weren’t.

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Melissa Goodman
Melissa Goodman
10 months ago

This had me laughing out loud! So true and so funny!

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Kathy
Kathy
10 months ago

GrammarcopsRus. I can relate!

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Mark
Mark
10 months ago

The comic made me laugh out loud, but the comments are even more hilarious. You’re all definitely “my people.” 🤣

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Edith Tyson
Edith Tyson
10 months ago

Lol! You are great as usual Gary. This happens to be one of my particular bugaboos.
Signed,
Official UWS grammar officer.

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Robin Rice
Robin Rice
10 months ago

I’ve heard this incorrectly three times today – in the elevator, in a play, and from a commentator on MSNBC. So thank you!

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Tanya W
Tanya W
10 months ago

The expression of the man in the background in the second frame is priceless!!

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Pat W
Pat W
10 months ago

Sharon: Sundays alone deserve a smile but Gary’s cartoons adds more icing on the cake.

Last edited 10 months ago by Pat W
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Pat W
Pat W
10 months ago

Sorry should be ‘add’ not ‘adds’ since we’re being grammarians! I’m using my phone and it won’t let me edit!

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Avi Goldstein
Avi Goldstein
10 months ago

For the record, it is “if I weren’t so pedantic,” not “if I wasn’t”‘ it is the subjunctive.

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Carmella Ombrella
Carmella Ombrella
10 months ago
Reply to  Avi Goldstein

Cranky Old School Grammarian agrees. Subjunctive forever!

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Ellen Massey
Ellen Massey
10 months ago

Fewer arguments if I weren’t. Is the subjunctive, chopped liver?

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Joe Chiplock
Joe Chiplock
10 months ago

Grammar lessons AND a weekly dose of humor. MARTOONERVILLE is full-service!

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ProfeJeff
ProfeJeff
10 months ago

English is a Germanic language. It irks me when self-styled grammarians try to impose Latin-based rules on the English language. For example, a preposition is the wrong word to end the sentence with.

As Churchill is reputed to have said, “this is a situation up with which I shall not put.”

Even Latin had an exception to the preposition rule. Go with me in Latin is VADE MECUM. It is not VADE CUM ME. Similarly, “with you” in Latin is TECUM, not CUM TE.

Can you end a sentence with five prepositions in a row? The five-year-old child of a linguist found a way to do that. The child asked her father to read her one of the stories from a book in the library downstairs. She insisted, however, that he not bring up one particular book. The linguist, all tired out from a hard day at work, made a mistake and brought the book that his daughter did not want. When she saw it, she asked him “What did you bring the book that I didn’t want to be read to out of up for?“

Count them; that’s five prepositions in a row!

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Kathy
Kathy
10 months ago

One of my pet peeves! Love your cartoons and humor, Gary!

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subway parent
subway parent
10 months ago

suggestion for next cartoon – best practices for loading a dishwasher 🙂

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Stephanie F
Stephanie F
10 months ago

There’s another grammatical error: it should read “if I weren’t “.

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APC
APC
10 months ago

🤣🤣

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Anne Watkins
Anne Watkins
10 months ago

Love this cartoon and the comment stream. Thank you Gary and Nancy! I have finally given up shouting at the radio “It’s Me not I!!!”. It still gravels me, but that battle is lost. Now I just mumble rant ” Fewer, fewer, fewer”. Consulted the little book, Strunk and White’s The Elements of Style for a simple explanation. Good old E.B., my hero. It reads: Less should not be misused for fewer. Less refers to quantity, fewer to number. “His troubles are less than mine” means “His troubles are not so great as mine.” “His troubles are fewer than mine” means “His troubles are not so numerous as mine.” Cheers to fewer troubles! (Unless a dearth of troubles would mean less fodder for Gary’s art)

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Betsy
Betsy
10 months ago

My brother once dated a woman who asked him if he thought she was pedantic. He replied, “Using the word pedantic is pedantic!” 🙂

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Joanie
Joanie
10 months ago

Wait, wait! The absolute worst is when presumably educated/intelligent people use “I” instead of “me” . For example, “This article was meant for you and I”. Aargh!

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