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    Woman Fires Gun from Douglass Houses Rooftop: Video

    April 24, 2023 | 12:53 PM
    in CRIME, NEWS
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    By Carol Tannenhauser

    In an act of “reckless endangerment,” a woman shot a gun from a rooftop of the Frederick Douglass Houses, on Columbus Avenue between West 100th and 104th Streets, on April 7th at approximately 5:10 pm. She then “fled on foot to parts unknown,”a police report stated. There were no injuries as a result of the incident, which is depicted in the video below:

    https://www.westsiderag.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/1838A41B-5CD4-4828-9B19-0C544B293FCD.mp4

    Anyone with information regarding this incident is asked to call the NYPD’s Crime Stoppers Hotline at 1-800-577-TIPS (8477) or for Spanish, 1-888-57-PISTA (74782). The public can also submit their tips by logging onto the Crime Stoppers website at https://crimestoppers.nypdonline.org/, on Twitter @NYPDTips.

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    59 Comments
    CardiZ
    CardiZ
    3 years ago

    How did she get a permit to carry? THIS is why NYC has gun violence. Not the simple EXISTENCE of guns,

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    Robert
    Robert
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CardiZ

    Permit????? WTF I’m sure she doesn’t have a permit. Try asking the two “crews” in the area Columbus Ave Gunners and Money Comes First. They and others control the Douglas and Wise developments. Guns are NOT the problem, it’s the folks possessing/using them illegally that are the problem. NYS/NYC have some of the toughest gun laws on the books. Maybe James and Bragg should actually enforce them and put a few folks in jail for a long time, no more DAT’s when caught with a gun.

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    Joey
    Joey
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CardiZ

    Permit! Only honest law abiders get permits.
    Those shooting guns off roofs in NYC don’t get permits.

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    Pedestrian
    Pedestrian
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CardiZ

    Guns are the problem! The person who used it is also the problem . It’s time to regulate guns and have significant penalties for those who use them supply and refuse to properly store the ones they have.

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    Michael G
    Michael G
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CardiZ

    She didn’t need a permit. That’s what the Iron Pipeline is for. (According to the state Attorney General’s tracing analytics, 87% of guns used in crimes in New York City originate from out of state.)

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    D M
    D M
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Michael G

    Yeah, right, Iron Pipeline is to blame. These criminals find their guns anywhere should this pipeline be shut down.

    Stop and frisk would have resolved the issue, but no, it might hurt the criminals’ feelings.

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    Wake Up
    Wake Up
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    Of course the iron pipeline is (at least part of) the problem. Every gun used in a crime started as legal but someone sold it to a criminal. Stop gun owners from being able to sell to criminals! Keep records of the sale chain so the seller can be identified and prosecuted. It’s a small number of illicit sellers supplying a lot of illegal guns.

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    EricaC
    EricaC
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    It was not shut down because it hurts the criminals’ feelings. It hurt the “feelings” (and Constitutional rights) of the non-criminals who were searched on the basis of factors that had more to do with race and socioeconomic status than likelihood of guilt. (But you know this.)

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    Bruce E. Bernstein
    Bruce E. Bernstein
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    i keep writing these facts about so-called “stop and frisk” over and over, but it apparently has no effect.

    The police continue to use “stop, question, and frisk.” They have to have reasonable cause. They can’t do it because they don’t like your looks or the color of your skin. Tens of thousands of s&fs take place in NYC every year.

    What was outlawed was stop and frisk using racial profiling. In other words, in most of the Bloomberg era, they s&fed all young Black men.

    This was clearly a racist policy, and should indeed be banned.

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    Josh
    Josh
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    Stop and Frisk is useless at removing guns from the street if every gun the police confiscate is replaced by another one. The Iron Pipeline is real. If you dam a river, the water stops flowing. Turn off the Iron Pipeline and guns stop entering the city. Now, every gun removed from the street actually lowers the number of guns on the street.

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    Ned L
    Ned L
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Josh

    We tried this with drugs and it didn’t work. But it will work with guns?

    When there is demand for a product (whether it be toothpaste, cocaine, or guns) other people will supply it – legally or not.

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    MJB
    MJB
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Josh

    That easy, huh? Criminals always find the way to get guns. The solution is to impose harsh measure for the actual possession of a gun.

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    Claire
    Claire
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    Stop and Frisk was deemed unconstitutional in a federal court of law.

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    Emma
    Emma
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    Stop and frisk did not do anything to stop crime and was harmful to regular people.

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    CardiZ
    CardiZ
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Emma

    Stop and frisk TREMENDOUSLY cut down crime. Harmful to regular people? How so? I’m a regular person. If the NYPD wants to search my bag or pat me down, I’m all for it if it helps with the safety of all of us.

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    West Ender
    West Ender
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CardiZ

    I, too, am a “regular person” and I’m not at all fine with surrendering my 4th Amendment rights to the NYPD just because they feel like searching my bag or patting me down. It’s bad enough our privacy is already eroded by the constant video surveillance.

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    Paul
    Paul
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CardiZ

    Stop & frisk ended with Bloomberg.
    Our lowest crime numbers were in years AFTER stop & frisk ended.

    Indeed, even today, crime is below 6 of Bloomberg’s years under stop and frisk.

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    CardiZ
    CardiZ
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Paul

    Crime stats are not accurate and we all know this. During Bloomberg Manhattan was a paradise of safety. After one year of DeBlasio, crime started creeping up, and it has only increased every year. You can’t gaslight me, I live here.

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    Dana
    Dana
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Paul

    “ Indeed, even today, crime is below 6 of Bloomberg’s years under stop and frisk.”

    Sure. Now we just have “perception of crime and fear”. Before we apparently had perception of safety.

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    UWS Person
    UWS Person
    3 years ago
    Reply to  CardiZ

    I’m a regular person, and I’m NOT ok with it.

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    S.O.C. (Save Our City)
    S.O.C. (Save Our City)
    3 years ago
    Reply to  UWS Person

    I’m an IRregular person and yet I definitely agree with CardiZ and others who want to go back to Stop-QUESTION-and Frisk.
    Note the QUESTION part; most police officers were raised in the city and have a NY’ers eye for troublesome people. Just by QUESTIONING they can decide whether to frisk or not.
    And, as for the “Supremes” (judges, not singers) let us recall the late Transit Workers Union president Michael Quill, who famously said, in his great Irish accent, “The judge can drop dead in his black robes.”

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    D M
    D M
    3 years ago
    Reply to  UWS Person

    Lots of people are not ok with TSA check-ups at the airport either. Doesn’t mean that they have to be banned. To the people who consider stop and frisk unconstitutional, TSA checks fall into the same category.

    I’m a regular person, and I’m totally fine with both measures because they insure safety of the society. The opposition only empowers marginal groups like criminals and terrorists.

    We should stop pandering to the loudmouths and keep implementing safety measures.

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    Leda
    Leda
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    TSA checks are NOT the same as Stop & Frisk. EVERYBODY-not just those the TSA think look like “troublesome people”- get checked at the airport. That’s why S&F is unconstitutional. It only happened to people the police chose to frisk.

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    Brandon
    Brandon
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    When the policy was in place, how many times were you stopped and frisked? Did it ever happen to you while you were on your way to work, making you late and causing your pay to be docked? Were you ever stopped while out with your kids and forced to remove clothing? Did the police ever find condoms in your wallet or handbag and charge you with prostitution as a result? These are all real things that happened to real people under stop-and-frisk, but I’m glad to know you’re “totally fine” with such treatment.

    Last edited 3 years ago by Brandon
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    CardiZ
    CardiZ
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Brandon

    Serious question: even if all those outcomes actually occur, isn’t it worth it to prevent just one person being shot? Don’t you care about other people’s lives?

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    Paul
    Paul
    3 years ago
    Reply to  D M

    People who choose not to go through TSA checks don’t have to fly. People who don’t like being stopped and frisked don’t have to ever leave their homes.

    See the difference?

    Bottom line is it’s been ruled unconstitutional. That’s not “people who consider, ” and our best years for low crime came years after it stopped.

    Last edited 3 years ago by Paul
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    Dana
    Dana
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Paul

    The abortion issue was decided by the same court.

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    Dana
    Dana
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Emma

    You can’t be serious. Stop and frisk prevented a lot of crime. Ask any cop.

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    Ish Kabibble
    Ish Kabibble
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Dana

    Dana, hearsay, while compelling data, is not FACT. Show facts, or your argument has no merit.

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    MJB
    MJB
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Ish Kabibble

    @Ish Kabibble
    You have to stop demanding statistics to show an obvious point, however wrong it might seem to you. I am a math and statistics major. The crime statistics currently presented are massaged and have no meaning.

    Dana has a good point, I find that your argument has no merit whatsoever.

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    Ish Kabibble
    Ish Kabibble
    3 years ago
    Reply to  MJB

    Numbers don’t lie. There is no innuendo in numbers. A statistics major should understand that. Odd.

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    good humor
    good humor
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Ish Kabibble

    Crime numbers are a tally of what is being reported, which is the part that creates the subjectivity.

    For those of us that have been here decades, trust the data you have been collecting data in your head for years. Your perceived “homeless person, closed store, pot smoke, loud radio per block” is fully valid!

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    MJB
    MJB
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Ish Kabibble

    Dear Ish Kabbible,

    Numbers as in arithmetics and numbers in statistics are totally different things. The latter involves the processes – gathering and interpreting of numbers, each of the processes involves a lot of criteria. In order to compare statistical numbers the processes should be exactly the same. This is statistics 101 for you so you wouldn’t think of us, statistics majors, as odd and not understanding the basics about numbers.

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    Dana
    Dana
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Ish Kabibble

    As they say “there are lies, damn lies and statistics “

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    Carol
    Carol
    3 years ago

    Come on, people. Go to West Side Rifle Range on W 20th St for target practice if you want to play SAFELY with guns.

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    Tony James
    Tony James
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Carol

    Love the WSRPR, but you’re limited to .22LR and 9mm carbine (or you used to be). No handguns, no way no how, unless you have a license.

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    Ish Kabibble
    Ish Kabibble
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Tony James

    Laws are pesky.

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    denton
    denton
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Tony James

    No rifles either without a license. It’s a felony for a law abiding citizen (or otherwise) to so much as touch a firearm without the license for it in this town.

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    Jen
    Jen
    3 years ago

    What is the penalty nowadays for firing a gun but not hurting anyone? Anything at all?

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    Wake Up
    Wake Up
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Jen

    That bullet landed somewhere. I grew up with firearms. Totally irresponsible.

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    Best side?
    Best side?
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Jen

    Assuming she does not have the proper permits, unlawful possession of a firearm in New York is a felony that could be punishable by up to 4 years in prison

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    Dana
    Dana
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Best side?

    Let’s see what happens. “Could” is a key word.

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    Frank Grimes
    Frank Grimes
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Jen

    I was going to make the same comment. What is the point of seeking this person out, and spending resources only to give her a “don’t do it again” ? There is no way there will be any meaningful punishment for something like this in modern day NYC.

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    Ish Kabibble
    Ish Kabibble
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Frank Grimes

    Guess we should allow the police to pick and choose what laws they enforce?

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    Dana
    Dana
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Ish Kabibble

    No, not the police. The politicians who made the laws that restrict judges discretion.

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    Josh
    Josh
    3 years ago

    How did the police get this video and not know who she is?

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    CardiZ
    CardiZ
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Josh

    probably posted on social media by the person filming.

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    will
    will
    3 years ago

    Guns need to be completely outlawed in cities.

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    CardiZ
    CardiZ
    3 years ago
    Reply to  will

    Let me clue you in on laws and guns; Chicago and NYC have such strict gun laws that it is nearly impossible to get a permit to legally carry a gun. The only civilians I have ever heard of carrying a gun in NYC are jewelers who work on 47th street and Howard Stern. That’s it. And yet, every week, this city and Chicago are rocked with gun violence.

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    Jen
    Jen
    3 years ago
    Reply to  will

    I’m sure this gun wasn’t legal as majority of the guns in cities. But no one dares to check if a person is carrying.

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    Best side?
    Best side?
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Jen

    The gun was perfectly legal. The person was not.

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    Cathy
    Cathy
    3 years ago

    This is appalling. What if the bullet hit a child? Why is there no regard for the children?

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    Raj S
    Raj S
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Cathy

    No regard for anyone, children or adults. Cheap thrill because of too much time on their hands.

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    Jen
    Jen
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Cathy

    Concern for the children’s safety on this site? As far as I remember, when the concerns were raised regarding Safe Haven’s proximity to the primary school, someone even had the audacity to say that the gates to the school are closed and no one is there! Apparently coming from a person who doesn’t have a clue about arrival/dismissal times, but feels good about themselves “caring” for the homeless.

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    Rob
    Rob
    3 years ago

    CardiZ: You might wish you hadn’t been so quick to allow the police to search your bag without cause after they’ve slipped some illegal drugs into your bag and then arrested you. It’s something they do do. https://www.themarshallproject.org/records/4692-cops-planting-evidence

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    D M
    D M
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Rob

    This situation would can apply to any search, including the ones with the warrant, it is not exclusive to stop and frisk. Should we ban all the searches?

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    Ima Counting
    Ima Counting
    3 years ago

    FIFTY-SIX (56) !! Sheeesh!! That’s the number of comments thus far! Easily in the top ten.
    Here’s mine, so that makes it 57…hey, that’s the same number of “varieties” made by Heinz Ketchup. :-0

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    CardiZ
    CardiZ
    3 years ago
    Reply to  Ima Counting

    Having someone fire a gun in the air in broad daylight exactly where many of us live is more important to many WSR readers than the latest restaurants that have opened. I kinda don’t want to die from a bullet to my skull.

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    Steve M
    Steve M
    3 years ago

    More laws need to be passed against firing a gun off the roof of a building in NYC. Until that happens, we’ll only be seeing more of this reckless and potentially deadly behavior.

    Last edited 3 years ago by Steve M
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