The Turnstyle underground mall.
The MTA will hold a hearing next week to determine whether to close entrances to the subway at Columbus Circle to help secure the shops in the Turnstyle underground mall there. The entrances at 57th and 8th Avenue would be closed from 12 a.m. until 5 a.m., according to an MTA hearing notice.
The closure would also make it easier to maintain the area around the shops, according to the MTA.
See the hearing notice here and below:
A newly-constructed retail passage has recently opened in the free-zone corridor that extends south from 58th to 57th Streets under 8th Avenue. The retail passage features a mix of shops and dining. These shops, collectively known as Turnstyle, are in operation from early morning to late at night. To maintain the shops, and to secure the stores when not open, it is proposed that the 57th Street / 8th Avenue entrances and the retail passage be closed to the public daily from 12 midnight to 5 A.M. During these hours customers will be able to access the subway at 58th Street and 8th Avenue, 59th Street and 8th Avenue and at 60th Street and 8th Avenue.
Date, Time, and Place
Wednesday, September 28, 2016
Hearing begins at 5:00 p.m. (Registration will be open from 4:00 to 7:00 p.m.)
Metropolitan Transportation Authority Headquarters
2 Broadway
William J. Ronan Board Room, 20th Floor
New York, NY 10004
If they don’t do this, those shops are going to find homeless people shacked up out front every morning. It was only a matter of time.
but everything is hunky dory according to our elected officials and all the liberals
What? Must be smoking too much of your name! How apropos!!
Classic sign of “comment section Tourette’s”…
Are you commenting on the above article? Non-sequitur much?
“To maintain the shops, and to secure the stores when not open, it is proposed that the 57th Street / 8th Avenue entrances and the retail passage be closed to the public daily from 12 midnight to 5 A.M.”
Sounds a little like business interests taking precedence over the public.
…wait a second, isn’t the subway there to serve the Public?
Yes, the subway is and will continue to do so under this plan, that is not the issue.
Are you willing to pay up for the additional security that certainly will be required to police this “mall” overnight?
Under ground passage or shopping area + mostly closed/abandoned overnight =’s crime.
Not just the risk of crime to the shops, anyone could be dragged down there and or approached using to get from one place to another. And before anyone starts, yes many of us NYC natives would know better and give the area a wide berth at night, but that part of Columbus Circle is full of tourists.
“Are you willing to pay up for the additional security that certainly will be required to police this “mall” overnight?”
wouldn’t that be the responsibility of the shops in the mall?
Oh for gods sake. They are planning to close a couple of entrances that are 2 blocks away from the actual station — and only late at night. They are not closing the subway.
Can’t you find real stuff to be outraged about?
i’m not outraged.
you?
Poutrage is definitely the reaction I’m seeing here. It’s literally closing one set of access points to a station that has EIGHT entrances. Of course, these are the same people on here who loudly trumpeted that Turnstyle would be a roachy mess in no time. The face that it is well used and is a pleasant experience must gall them to no end.
Hoping that someone is “galled” is not nice.
Hey, here’s an idea.. close TurnStyle and raise the subway fare instead to compensate for lost revenue! Or increase NY taxes to increase the subsidy! That way the subway (in the London sense of an underground passage) will indeed serve everyone equally. Between midnight and 5AM.
Oh, and the shops in the subway will now pay rent to greedy landlords aboveground rather than to the MTA.
While you’re at it, remove all the advertising from the subway walls, because that really doesn’t serve the public interest either.
i don’t agree with your ideas, but go ahead and pusue the, i would never censor your ideas.
Yuppies can’t take real New York in front of their pretty stores
Ummm… unsecured stores and badly-maintained areas is the “real” New York? Oh wait – you used the word yuppie. It must still be 1983 where you are.
Yuppies were a thing 30 years ago.
what is the term for people who were young professionals 30 years ago?
Republicans.
On the UWS? Hillary supporters.
so the to take Sean’s observation into account, the revised comment would read:
Middle-aged Republicans professionals can’t take real New York in front of their pretty stores
Middle-aged professionals.
Winter is coming and those shops will def have bums setting up camp. I know someone who just closed a store in LA due to bums camping outside her shop and defecating and urinating all over the place. Yes the subway serves the public- and these disgusting crackhead bums ruin it for everyone. Thanks Bloomberg! Thanks Cuomo! Thanks DiBlasio!
Amen sister. How I long for the halcyon days of “Giuliani Time” when police could shove things up non-white people’s unmentionables to make sure they stayed in Queens or wherever they come from. Sad how things have changed. If we would have re-elected Giuliani he would have deported dem bums back to LA or wherever they come from.
Those mini doughnuts in TurnStyle sure are tasty btw
Please define the technical terms that you use:
For example, what is a “bum” and how does he or she differ from you.
Depending on your definition, there may be other terms that you’ve used that may require definition.
I had no idea that Bloomberg, Cuomo and DeBlasio had careers in LA. Thanks anonymous poster! You learn something new everyday…go figure.
you forgot to thank the liberals
Well if the quasi homeless camp along 60th across from the Mandarin Oriental is any indication, then yes, if the MTA doesn’t close off these stations then certainly overnight there will be issues. More so as the weather turns colder and or is otherwise not great for sleeping in the rough.
“More so as the weather turns colder and or is otherwise not great for sleeping in the rough.”
so the solution is to kick them outside?
No, just not to let them in in the first place.
keep the warmth and protection from the elements more for “Those mini doughnuts in TurnStyle sure are tasty”
people, who needs ’em?
I use the exits that are slated to be closed after midnight often as do thousands of others.
We are talking 5 hours/night or 35 hours/week. This is essentially ONE person at $15/hr or $27k/year. I doubt this amount split by all the new shops would put them out of business or be more than rounding error. A guard would have the added benefit of making us all safer and reducing crime.
When the Turnstyle opened I immediately noticed doors that could be locked at several entrances into the “tunnel.” These doors were not there before the remodel. So I just assumed that they were already locked during off-hours and am surprised to learn that it is just now being proposed.
It makes sense to me. Not just to protect the stores but also protect those who might become crime victims walking down there in the early morning hours. Why would anyone absolutely need to walk the tunnel to access the subway?
“Why would anyone absolutely need to walk the tunnel to access the subway?”
well…why couldn’t someone continue to access the subway in the same way as they always have?
Need I say more?
https://www.fox5ny.com/news/207829987-story